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1 hour ago, Steve McQueen said:

I think Rangers fans not understanding the TV screen signal is the only recent plus point for VAR?

It wasn't that; it was the difference between the signal for the award of a direct free kick, and pointing towards the centre circle they didn't understand. 

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Have seen this mentioned a few times since Sunday but is “clear and obvious” actually mentioned anywhere in the rules? People seem to act like a ref has had to miss a player being shot in the box to give a penalty. The foul on Sunday was (to the letter of the law) a foul, it doesn’t matter if was “soft” or not. Handballs and dangerous play for red cards can be subjective but things like offside and fouls like that one in the build up are objective (according to the rules) even if they aren’t “clear and obvious”.  It took Robertson about 10 seconds to change his mind so he was clearly pretty convinced.

My point is about the wider use of VAR not just this weekend. 

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4 hours ago, The Golden God said:

Have seen this mentioned a few times since Sunday but is “clear and obvious” actually mentioned anywhere in the rules? People seem to act like a ref has had to miss a player being shot in the box to give a penalty. The foul on Sunday was (to the letter of the law) a foul, it doesn’t matter if was “soft” or not. Handballs and dangerous play for red cards can be subjective but things like offside and fouls like that one in the build up are objective (according to the rules) even if they aren’t “clear and obvious”.  It took Robertson about 10 seconds to change his mind so he was clearly pretty convinced.

My point is about the wider use of VAR not just this weekend. 

It was a VAR decision that cost Rangers in a big game, hence the collective heads gone as denying the sons of William refereeing breaks, particularly against Celtic just isn't on.

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6 hours ago, The Golden God said:

Have seen this mentioned a few times since Sunday but is “clear and obvious” actually mentioned anywhere in the rules? People seem to act like a ref has had to miss a player being shot in the box to give a penalty. The foul on Sunday was (to the letter of the law) a foul, it doesn’t matter if was “soft” or not. Handballs and dangerous play for red cards can be subjective but things like offside and fouls like that one in the build up are objective (according to the rules) even if they aren’t “clear and obvious”.  It took Robertson about 10 seconds to change his mind so he was clearly pretty convinced.

My point is about the wider use of VAR not just this weekend. 


Yes, it is basically the very first thing mentioned in the VAR section of the laws of the game. https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/video-assistant-referee-var-protocol/#principles

1. A video assistant referee (VAR) is a match official, with independent access to match footage, who may assist the referee only in the event of a ‘clear and obvious error’ or ‘serious missed incident’ in relation to:

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7 hours ago, craigkillie said:


Yes, it is basically the very first thing mentioned in the VAR section of the laws of the game. https://www.theifab.com/laws/latest/video-assistant-referee-var-protocol/#principles

1. A video assistant referee (VAR) is a match official, with independent access to match footage, who may assist the referee only in the event of a ‘clear and obvious error’ or ‘serious missed incident’ in relation to:

So, as I've said before, an incident doesn't have to be "clear and obvious" to be changed.

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On 05/09/2023 at 22:35, Ginaro said:

Audio from some VAR incidents in the Premier League this season, would be good if the SFA could do this at some point.

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12955649/match-officials-micd-up-premier-league-in-game-audio-shown-in-new-programme-on-sky-sports

Not audio but the transcript of dialogue between VAR officials re. Luis Diaz clusterfuck.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/oct/03/var-audio-full-transcript-luis-diaz-goal-liverpool-tottenham

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14 hours ago, Florentine_Pogen said:

Not audio but the transcript of dialogue between VAR officials re. Luis Diaz clusterfuck.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/oct/03/var-audio-full-transcript-luis-diaz-goal-liverpool-tottenham

It is like a comedy script.

Referee: Well done boys, good process.

seconds later

VAR: I can’t do anything. I can’t do anything. *expletive*

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I’ve heard the audio from the error in disallowing the Liverpool goal.  What a shambles.

It blows my mind that there’s not clear protocol on terminology and dialogue between the var officials to prevent misinterpretations like this.  It sounds like a bunch of mates having a chat about it down the pub.

 

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1 minute ago, PauloPerth said:

I’ve heard the audio from the error in disallowing the Liverpool goal.  What a shambles.

It blows my mind that there’s not clear protocol on terminology and dialogue between the var officials to prevent misinterpretations like this.  It sounds like a bunch of mates having a chat about it down the pub.

 

Yeah, in cricket, there is almost a script that they follow as they go through each element of the check, and they reiterate the original decision before confirming/overturning.

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Just now, Dooj said:

Yeah, in cricket, there is almost a script that they follow as they go through each element of the check, and they reiterate the original decision before confirming/overturning.

I was thinking about the comparison with cricket as well, night and day.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, PauloPerth said:

I was thinking about the comparison with cricket as well, night and day.

 

 

Seems to be the VAR official that has made a rip roaring c**t of it, surely stopping the game the seconds or so after would've been a better call that to just go "nah nothing I can do now mate".

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28 minutes ago, Empty It said:

Seems to be the VAR official that has made a rip roaring c**t of it, surely stopping the game the seconds or so after would've been a better call that to just go "nah nothing I can do now mate".

Especially as the ball was out of play for a throw in. He just seemed to accept the mistake and wanted to move on.

Surely better to suffer a moment’s embarrassment than ending up with where he is now.

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10 minutes ago, PauloPerth said:

Especially as the ball was out of play for a throw in. He just seemed to accept the mistake and wanted to move on.

Surely better to suffer a moment’s embarrassment than ending up with where he is now.

Even when corrected by the other VAR guy he was just "nah f**k it done now" as if it wouldn't come back to bite him on the arse, can't see him getting another game.

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