Alec Baldwin Fatally Shoots Someone on Set

[TheScarf]

I keep thinking the thread title says 'Alec Baldwin finally shoots someone on set'.

[Lofarl]

Got to think after the dust is settled that it being America, that woman’s family will be quids in.  The production company will be sued, the armourer will be sued.  Alec will certainly be sued.  Everyone will get sued.  

[scottsdad]

[BFTD]

Wrong thread m80. Bill Murray didn't have anything to do with Alec Baldwin finally shooting someone on set.

[resk]

21 hours ago, Shotgun said:

"The head gun handler for the movie "Rust," which has made headlines after cinematographer Halyna Hutchins was fatally shot by Alec Baldwin on set, revealed last month that she was worried about her experience level for her first job.

Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, 24, told a podcast that she almost didn't take the job, her first as head armorer, because she wasn't sure if she was "ready" for it."

Armorer worried she wasn't ready for job.

I have a feeling that wee gem may be brought up should lawsuits ensue.

"Gutierrez-Reed, the daughter of the veteran Hollywood armorer Thell Reed, said on the "Voices of the West" podcast that "Rust" was only her second film as a head armorer."  Ooft.  

The assistant director seems to be a bit of an arsehole as well.  All three of them - the armourer, the assistant director and Baldwin - could probably have avoided someone getting killed by just doing a simple check of the gun.

The whole thing just seems like a massive f**k up.   

[senorsoupe]

I read elsewhere that some of the crew members had taken the guns out for some "plinking" to kill time.  Plinking is shooting beer cans for lolz. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/rust-shooting-gun-that-killed-halyna-hutchins-was-used-that-morning-for-live-ammo-target-practice/ar-AAPWxNl?li=BBnb7Kz

Edited October 25, 2021 by senorsoupe

[Arabdownunder]

Don Jr seeing a marketing opportunity

"A T-shirt with the slogan “Guns Don’t Kill People, Alec Baldwin Kills People” is selling for $US27.99 on a merchandise site linked to the former president’s namesake son."

https://www.theage.com.au/world/north-america/donald-trump-jnr-sells-t-shirts-mocking-alec-baldwin-rust-set-tragedy-20211026-p59335.html

[hk blues]

13 hours ago, resk said:

"Gutierrez-Reed, the daughter of the veteran Hollywood armorer Thell Reed, said on the "Voices of the West" podcast that "Rust" was only her second film as a head armorer."  Ooft.  

The assistant director seems to be a bit of an arsehole as well.  All three of them - the armourer, the assistant director and Baldwin - could probably have avoided someone getting killed by just doing a simple check of the gun.

The whole thing just seems like a massive f**k up.   

Certainly a massive f**k up but I'm not sure why Baldwin would be expected to check the gun seeing as there are others being paid to do exactly that, and nothing more. Especially given he was told the gun was "safe".  

[BFTD]

2 minutes ago, hk blues said:

Certainly a massive f**k up but I'm not sure why Baldwin would be expected to check the gun seeing as there are others being paid to do exactly that, and nothing more. Especially given he was told the gun was "safe".  

I'd have thought actors would actually be told not to do any fucking about with the weaponry, just in case they did something that caused a problem.

[resk]

23 minutes ago, hk blues said:

Certainly a massive f**k up but I'm not sure why Baldwin would be expected to check the gun seeing as there are others being paid to do exactly that, and nothing more. Especially given he was told the gun was "safe".  

Yes, I agree.  I said that all three of them could have avoided the shooting if they'd done a simple check, not that all three of them were expected to as part of their jobs on the set.  I'm guessing that some actors will be more "gun-aware" than others and will carry out checks as a matter of normal gun handling - Baldwin clearly isn't one of those actors, which is unfortunate.  

[welshbairn]

11 minutes ago, resk said:

Yes, I agree.  I said that all three of them could have avoided the shooting if they'd done a simple check, not that all three of them were expected to as part of their jobs on the set.  I'm guessing that some actors will be more "gun-aware" than others and will carry out checks as a matter of normal gun handling - Baldwin clearly isn't one of those actors, which is unfortunate.  

Actors in the most part are idiots dealing with practical matters, I certainly wouldn't trust Baldwin not to mess up a safety check on a gun that might be primed to fire a blank.

[hk blues]

13 minutes ago, resk said:

Yes, I agree.  I said that all three of them could have avoided the shooting if they'd done a simple check, not that all three of them were expected to as part of their jobs on the set.  I'm guessing that some actors will be more "gun-aware" than others and will carry out checks as a matter of normal gun handling - Baldwin clearly isn't one of those actors, which is unfortunate.  

Apparently Baldwin was a careful actor when it comes to handling guns - on the same movie set he had sent a kid away from the vicinity when a gun was being fired a few days back.  Obviously we all have read a lot of stuff around this, but it seems that it's more common for the intended "target" to go through the required checks than the "shooter" for obvious reasons.  

I'm not sure what the exact protocol is, there doesn't seem to be one, but surely a check and double-check system as a minimum should be laid down?  

[Sergeant Wilson]

2 hours ago, resk said:

Yes, I agree.  I said that all three of them could have avoided the shooting if they'd done a simple check, not that all three of them were expected to as part of their jobs on the set.  I'm guessing that some actors will be more "gun-aware" than others and will carry out checks as a matter of normal gun handling - Baldwin clearly isn't one of those actors, which is unfortunate.  

I doubt actors will be relied on to do any checks. What possible qualification could they have? If Jeniffer Aniston  used a gun in a film would you be expecting her to give it a quick check?

I had thought he was messing about, but have since read he was shooting towards a camera for a scene. He sounds pretty blameless to me.

[Steve_Wilkos]

I keep thinking the thread title says 'Alec Baldwin batally shoots someone on set".

[hk blues]

1 minute ago, Steve_Wilkos said:

I keep thinking the thread title says 'Alec Baldwin batally shoots someone on set".

Is that even a word?

[Gaz]

4 minutes ago, hk blues said:

Is that even a word?

It's a perfectly cromulent word.

[hk blues]

3 minutes ago, Gaz said:

It's a perfectly cromulent word.

[resk]

1 hour ago, Sergeant Wilson said:

I doubt actors will be relied on to do any checks. What possible qualification could they have? If Jeniffer Aniston  used a gun in a film would you be expecting her to give it a quick check?

I had thought he was messing about, but have since read he was shooting towards a camera for a scene. He sounds pretty blameless to me.

I said if Baldwin had done a check it might not have happened.  That's not the same as me suggesting that it was Baldwin's job to check the gun, that he should be relied on to ensure the gun was safe, or that any blame should be attached to him.  However that's the second time I've had to make that clarification which probably means I didn't word my point correctly - sorry to all for causing confusion!  

Actually there are plenty of people in the darker corners of the internet saying that he should be blamed/charged/whatever, but they seem to be mostly perma-raging NRA gun nuts (Baldwin was/is evidently quite vocally in favour of tighter gun controls) so their opinions can probably be safely filed in the bin.   

[welshbairn]

35 minutes ago, resk said:

I said if Baldwin had done a check it might not have happened.  That's not the same as me suggesting that it was Baldwin's job to check the gun, that he should be relied on to ensure the gun was safe, or that any blame should be attached to him.  However that's the second time I've had to make that clarification which probably means I didn't word my point correctly - sorry to all for causing confusion!  

Actually there are plenty of people in the darker corners of the internet saying that he should be blamed/charged/whatever, but they seem to be mostly perma-raging NRA gun nuts (Baldwin was/is evidently quite vocally in favour of tighter gun controls) so their opinions can probably be safely filed in the bin.   

Trump junior's flogging this:

[Bairnardo]

24 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

Trump junior's flogging this:

Worst Goldie Lookin Chain cover ever.