Mark Knopfler Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 This b*****d song romanticises having a fast car. However, driving fast is a surefire way to die horribly. Would you prefer to have a slow car? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 @alta-pete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 This b*****d song romanticises having a fast car. However, driving fast is a surefire way to die horribly. Would you prefer to have a slow car?No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I'd prefer to have a Kia or a Lexus, the speed is no issue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Knopfler Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said: I'd prefer to have a Kia or a Lexus, the speed is no issue Fucking terrible cars. What drugs do you take? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Mark Knopfler said: This b*****d song romanticises having a fast car. However, driving inappropriately fast is a surefire way to die horribly. Would you prefer to have a slow car? FTFY. But it is easily possible to be driving with inappropriate speed in the most mundane shitbox. And indeed the shitbox is probably a whole lot less safe as it doesn’t have the brakes, tyres and suspension that the fast car has to cope with its performance potential. So you’re a whole lot less likely to die horribly in that fast car. An old truism - the most dangerous part of the car is the nut behind the wheel. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UsedToGoToCentralPark Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 If your going to walk out in front of a car, make sure it's a fast one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 20 hours ago, Mark Knopfler said: This b*****d song romanticises having a fast car. However, driving fast is a surefire way to die horribly. Would you prefer to have a slow car? Or if you live in a city, dispense with your car and ride a bike? Less cars and more bikes will make cities and the surrounding environment more pleasant for everyone. Unless you're a taxi driver or a nutter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 19 hours ago, Mark Knopfler said: Fucking terrible cars. What drugs do you take? Would have to disagree on this, the Kia Stinger is an absolutely lovely car. I'd recommend the GT-Line, with it's 300hp, 2.5L engine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Richelieu Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Uphill runs become power-sappingly mundane, while overtaking National Express coaches can become a long, drawn-out experience. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Or disabled. loads of specialist bikes. and cycling infrastructures in town are largely compatible with wheelchairs - much more so in many cases than existing pavements. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, oaksoft said: Al of which require a ton of money. Money which vast numbers of disabled people are highly unlikely to have access to. As for infrastructure, many councils can't even get kerbs dropped properly. a bike or specialist bike is cheaper than a car and cheaper to maintain. Govt grants for mobility also in place. Improving the infrastructure can be expensive but again central grants in place and also with a medium to longer term approach, less cars and more bikes, mean less costly road maintenance required. The approach to making people and green transport a priority for cities, and the benefits that bring, are not primarily around funding though of course it is a consideration - the biggest obstacle is mindset. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 31 minutes ago, oaksoft said: All of which require a ton of money. Money which vast numbers of disabled people are traditionally highly unlikely to have access to. As for infrastructure, many councils can't even get kerbs dropped properly. Many people have to go up and down kerbs backwards to stop the front wheels catching on kerbs and tipping them out headfirst. There's an awful lot of uneducated smuggery amongst environmentalists and cycling cultists regarding this sort of thing. Some of them need to borrow a wheelchair for the afternoon and try getting around for themselves to actually understand the issues. just to add on the back of your addition/edit, it is about cutting down on the number of times people use cars and making cities more people friendly and making people the priority. We are still stuck in a 60s mindset where car is king and motorists are VIPs that need to take priority over everything else. There will still be a need an exception for those who need a car to get from A to B due to a disability - that shouldn't be cited as a factor or barrier in seeking to rid city centres of the majority of cars. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 @Tracy Chapman 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 10 hours ago, G51 said: Would have to disagree on this, the Kia Stinger is an absolutely lovely car. I'd recommend the GT-Line, with it's 300hp, 2.5L engine. Sorry to correct M8 but it’s 3.3l and 360bhp. #carbore (Just getting the thread back on track and away from the eco mentalist and the entirely worthy but mispositioned discussion about the less mobile.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyAnchor Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Sooner or later, you're gonna listen to Ralph Nader 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 I've had this song stuck in my head ever since I saw this thread title. Good tune. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Disabled people are amongst the poorest in our society. Many of them are on benefits. Many of them won't own a car at all due to the cost, let alone fund a replacement. Government grants don't always cover what you are suggesting. It's not as simple as being a mindset issue. It's a financial issue for millions of people. So if the disabled people in question have neither cars nor bikes why would fewer cars and more bikes make the slightest difference to them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 I’ve never crashed a fast car. I did however roll my 1litre Fiesta Popular into a field of butter beans. Farmer was annoyed at me and so were the police as the wreckage was causing a traffic jam as folk slowed to see the stump of car poking up above the crops. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 5 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: @Tracy Chapman Wid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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