Russian invasion of Ukraine

[Miguel Sanchez]

13 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Interesting thread from one of the workers are Navalny's anti corruption organisation on a young woman living in a large flat in London with no source of income and a close relationship with Sergey Lavrov, who today denied that Russia has attacked Ukraine.

 

 

If she gets kicked out she can sleep in my spare room.

[Salt n Vinegar]

14 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Interesting thread from one of the workers are Navalny's anti corruption organisation on a young woman living in a large flat in London with no source of income and a close relationship with Sergey Lavrov, who today denied that Russia has attacked Ukraine.

 

 

Oh come on now, this is getting ridiculous... I'm sure we all know unemployed 26 year olds who just happen to be relations of senior government officials of dodgy countries who can buy a £4.4m property in cash. 

10 a penny down our way. 

Nothing to see here, move on now. 

[williemillersmoustache]

2 hours ago, Mackie The Staggie said:

You know, starting to think the Russian aren't too good at this 'War' malarkey

 

I've been pretty suspicious of some of the reported figures for Russian armour losses.

I'm not now. 

[ICTChris]

I've just seen that under the sanctions on Abramovich, Chelsea can't sell tickets for games.  Only season ticket holders can attend matches.  They can't buy or sell players or give new contracts, they can't sell merchandise.

Excellent news.  Hopefully they go bankrupt and revert back to being a shite yo-yo team.

[highlandcowden]

1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

Some of the tanks in that column were made in 1979.  

Some of the initial infantry assaults on places like Homostel and Kharkiv saw very poor tactics from the Russian troops - bunching together and becoming isolated.  This lead to heavy losses for them.  Some analysis is saying that nobody in teh invasion force, at least from the Northern part, apart from very senior officers were told they'd be invading until almost the eve of the attack, with some of the troops not even being told until they'd actually driven over the border.  This would mean that they might not have trained and drilled as much, leading to these basic errors.  That's just speculation though.  The other possibility is that the Russian Army isn't really experienced in this sort of battle.  The wars Russia has fought haven't been on this scale against an adversary like Ukraine, with long range artillery etc.  They also have little combat experience in urban environments.

There are also new vidoes of a TB2 strike on Russian anti-aircraft missiles that have been released today, although I'm not sure they are reliably dated.  

 

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irrespective of what they thought they were going to be doing,theyre still a trained modern army.

ive never been in the forces but i know you arent meant to bunch up like that

[101]

1 hour ago, Shandon Par said:

101 needs to up his pint and kebab game if he wants to reach that level of  manliness.

Trying to lose my increasing rotund-ness so unfortunately I won't be trying to emulate the great Jocky

[TheScarf]

12 minutes ago, highlandcowden said:

irrespective of what they thought they were going to be doing,theyre still a trained modern army.

ive never been in the forces but i know you arent meant to bunch up like that

It'll be due to where they are, they can only move along the roads which by design are narrow, but yes, don't literally go nose to tail ffs.

[HK Hibee]

29 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

I've just seen that under the sanctions on Abramovich, Chelsea can't sell tickets for games.  Only season ticket holders can attend matches.  They can't buy or sell players or give new contracts, they can't sell merchandise.

Excellent news.  Hopefully they go bankrupt and revert back to being a shite yo-yo team.

They are also allowed to spend 20,000 pounds per away trip on travel. Fine if they are playing Spurs but not so good if they are playing in Europe 

[101]

Just now, HK Hibee said:

They are also allowed to spend 20,000 pounds per away trip on travel. Fine if they are playing Spurs but not so good if they are playing in Europe 

25 tickets on the mega bus please.

[vikingTON]

30 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

It'll be due to where they are, they can only move along the roads which by design are narrow, but yes, don't literally go nose to tail ffs.

The two world wars were not fought solely by road-based transport. This is strategic incompetence on a par with the British thinking that the Japanese couldn't possibly send troops through the jungle. 

Two weeks later, a bunch of Japanese infantry on bicycles had punted them out of Singapore. 

[TheScarf]

1 minute ago, virginton said:

The two world wars were not fought solely by road-based transport. This is strategic incompetence on a par with the British thinking that the Japanese couldn't possibly send troops through the jungle. 

Two weeks later, a bunch of Japanese infantry on bicycles had punted them out of Singapore. 

Well quite, my point was if you do choose to move solely on roads, maybe don't all drive right next to each other.

[Florentine_Pogen]

1 minute ago, virginton said:

The two world wars were not fought solely by road-based transport. This is strategic incompetence on a par with the British thinking that the Japanese couldn't possibly send troops through the jungle. 

Two weeks later, a bunch of Japanese infantry on bicycles had punted them out of Singapore. 

Obviously inspired by some auld Greeks and a hollow wooden horse........................

[O'Kelly Isley III]

1 hour ago, ICTChris said:

I've just seen that under the sanctions on Abramovich, Chelsea can't sell tickets for games.  Only season ticket holders can attend matches.  They can't buy or sell players or give new contracts, they can't sell merchandise.

Excellent news.  Hopefully they go bankrupt and revert back to being a shite yo-yo team.

I agree, but if we were to examine the ownership credentials of almost every Premier League team with the possible exception of Norwich we'd find 'persons of interest'.  This news partly compensates for the likelihood of Newcastle avoiding relegation.

[Welly boy]

1 hour ago, Melanius Mullarkay said:

Brookstein is without doubt the biggest p***k Ive never met. A bird I was at school with (dark haired stunnah) went out with him for a bit and I  seem to remember her spilling the beans about his absolute self absorbed cuntishness.

I seem to remember @Jimmy Shaker got a KB from him on Twitter at one point for being a "football person" or some such shite.

 

I dont share his views and he could well be a p**k but i suppose he has stuck his head above the parapet and spoke about the war unlike other so called pop stars, the only time you'll hear them giving an opinion will be on stage at Wembly for the Aid for Ukraine Gig.

[DiegoDiego]

Hopefully they go bankrupt and revert back to being a shite yo-yo team.

[The DA]

15 minutes ago, virginton said:

The two world wars were not fought solely by road-based transport. This is strategic incompetence on a par with the British thinking that the Japanese couldn't possibly send troops through the jungle. 

Two weeks later, a bunch of Japanese infantry on bicycles had punted them out of Singapore. 

To be fair, once you're into the suburbs, the only routes forward tend to be roads.

[bennett]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[welshbairn]

27 minutes ago, Welly boy said:

I dont share his views and he could well be a p**k but i suppose he has stuck his head above the parapet and spoke about the war unlike other so called pop stars, the only time you'll hear them giving an opinion will be on stage at Wembly for the Aid for Ukraine Gig.

Most, like Morrissey, Clapton, Van Morrison and seemingly this guy, would be far better off keeping their gobs shut.

[Florentine_Pogen]

Tanya, 18, a student from Mariupol and now studying abroad, was in contact with her mum and brother, who are still in Mariupol, on Wednesday. Here’s her story.

Yesterday my brother and my mum managed to find a spot where they could find a connection to call us. They were risking their lives going outside but they know me and my dad are extremely worried about them. They were on the phone for four or five minutes. My brother was trying to be positive but I could hear in his voice that he’s feeling desperate and they don’t know how they’re going to leave the city. It’s been one week without enough food and water, without electricity, and without heating and it’s hard because Mariupol is pretty cold.

I was born in Mariupol and I lived there for the last 10 years. In the last few years, our mayor made many changes; lots of areas have been rebuilt, and it has become a much more beautiful city. There was even a new shopping center. And now everything is destroyed.

I can’t imagine this is happening now. I feel this is surreal. I feel like I’m just dreaming and as I’m talking about it, my hands are shaking, it’s so hard to process. Thankfully my dad, who’s a ship engineer, was onboard when the war started. Now we’re together in Germany where his company is based. Normally I’m studying in another country but I’m with him because he can’t handle it. He’s very emotional, he’s crying every five minutes because his wife and son - my mum and brother - are in Mariupol.

My brother told us that a rocket had hit the neighbouring building to the underground car park he and my mum are living in. It’s safer in the carpark than our apartment, which is on the 5th floor and is very dangerous because some of the buildings around it have been completely bombed. They’re sleeping in the car, so they can keep a little bit warm and can charge their phone. There are around 10 or 12 people down there, and my brother told me that everyone is trying to help each other; if someone has spare food or water, they share it.”

There is very little food and water now. I know my mum and my brother cooked a huge amount of porridge at the beginning, a week ago, when they still had electricity. They also filled the bath in the apartment with water. They did some shopping to stock up when the war started but it’s never enough.

My mum told us, on the phone, that they’ve lost so much weight, she said it’s because they’re so stressed. She said “Without food, that’s fine, you know. We’re not scared anymore, we’re just tired, tired from this situation. There’s no fear now, we kind of get used to all this, shooting - that’s fine, bombing - that’s fine.” She said they’re not craving food anymore, even though they’re hungry. They’re just so tired. They want to leave, they want to be safe.

I heard in news reports that a kid died of dehydration. I couldn’t believe it was possible to die of dehydration in the city, in 2022. It’s crazy, it’s really crazy.

It made me and my dad feel a little bit happier yesterday because we heard their voices. They were trying so hard to be positive when they were talking to us. My brother said we have to be strong and we have to believe in them and in Mariupol and that they will win and they will survive. My mum said “Hope dies last” even when you’re devastated and destroyed emotionally, you have to believe in the best.

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2 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Interesting thread from one of the workers are Navalny's anti corruption organisation on a young woman living in a large flat in London with no source of income and a close relationship with Sergey Lavrov, who today denied that Russia has attacked Ukraine.

 

 

Lucky Sergey !!

Maybe being a corrupt foreign cabinet minister would be a good career move......

On second thoughts, it doesn't need to be foreign, I'm sure there's plenty of opportunities in uk.gov.