Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 18 hours ago, TommyDickFingers said: Ah, but could they make gravy under gunfire? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 14 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Not when it comes down to the hand to hand stuff, cold steel etc. You wouldn't last 5 minutes! I wouldn't need to if I'd flattened them with artillery from 8km away. Or just shot them from 600m while they were cartwheeling towards me... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: Not when it comes down to the hand to hand stuff, cold steel etc. You wouldn't last 5 minutes! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 18 hours ago, TommyDickFingers said: Pretty sure Mark Mcghee implemented this pre match routine vs Celtic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 53 minutes ago, Sweet Pete said: I wouldn't need to if I'd flattened them with artillery from 8km away. Or just shot them from 600m while they were cartwheeling towards me... It's all changed since my day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweet Pete Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: It's all changed since my day. You've never been the same since Nuremberg. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Sweet Pete said: You've never been the same since Nuremberg. Aye, I was lucky to get off with a warning. A lot of good men weren't so fortunate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beefybake Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I see that the Defence Secretary has made an urgent flight to the US. Speculation around as to what that is about. At a guess, I'd say it's for discussions about how to counter the Russian attacks on the Ukraine power stations, and associated infrastructure. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Quitely Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, beefybake said: I see that the Defence Secretary has made an urgent flight to the US. Speculation around as to what that is about. At a guess, I'd say it's for discussions about how to counter the Russian attacks on the Ukraine power stations, and associated infrastructure. The last UK Cabinet Minister who did that flew back to his P45. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, beefybake said: I see that the Defence Secretary has made an urgent flight to the US. Speculation around as to what that is about. At a guess, I'd say it's for discussions about how to counter the Russian attacks on the Ukraine power stations, and associated infrastructure. Picking up the keys for the Tridents 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, beefybake said: I see that the Defence Secretary has made an urgent flight to the US. Speculation around as to what that is about. At a guess, I'd say it's for discussions about how to counter the Russian attacks on the Ukraine power stations, and associated infrastructure. You'd think they could discuss that at NATO HQ in Brussels, you have to hope its about some espionage scandal or something rather than Russian nukes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, beefybake said: I see that the Defence Secretary has made an urgent flight to the US. Speculation around as to what that is about. At a guess, I'd say it's for discussions about how to counter the Russian attacks on the Ukraine power stations, and associated infrastructure. Someone has to tell Wallace what the U.K. defence strategy should be is. Edited October 18, 2022 by Granny Danger 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dev Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 49 minutes ago, jagfox said: The Chinese have also told their nationals to get out of The Ukraine, as has Greece. This could be something really sinister. Is Putin and Co so crazy after all? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-mysterious-ben-wallace-trip-to-washington-amid-fears-of-russian-escalation-12723942 Ukraine war: Mysterious Ben Wallace trip to Washington amid fears of Russian escalation The secretive, last-minute nature of the trip and a comment by a second defence minister, James Heappey - who said the conversations Mr Wallace would be having on Tuesday were "beyond belief" - suggested particularly sensitive and serious issues would be discussed. By Deborah Haynes, Mark Stone and James Matthews, Sky correspondents Tuesday 18 October 2022 19:56, UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace is on a hastily-arranged visit to Washington to talk with his counterpart and White House officials about "shared security concerns" including Ukraine and Russia, a source and an official said. The secretive, last-minute nature of the trip and a comment by a second defence minister, James Heappey - who said the conversations that Mr Wallace would be having on Tuesday were "beyond belief" - suggested particularly sensitive and serious issues would be discussed. It comes as the UK, the US and other NATO allies watch Russia's war in Ukraine closely, amid concerns that President Vladimir Putin may escalate his attacks even further, possibly even resorting to a nuclear strike as his forces lose ground to western-armed Ukrainian troops. News blackout in southern Ukraine means 'something big is going on' - war latest The UK defence source declined to offer any specific detail on the content of Mr Wallace's trip other than to say: "The defence secretary is in Washington DC to discuss shared security concerns, including Ukraine. "He will be visiting his counterpart at the Pentagon and senior figures at the White House." Brigadier General Patrick Ryder, the US Pentagon press secretary, offered a similar description: "He's here today to discuss the Ukraine situation and the US and UK joint efforts to support Ukraine, as well as to, again, reaffirm the transatlantic ties and co-operation that our two countries share when it comes to issues like Russia." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Reports that the Russians want to evacuate civilians from the west bank of the Dnipro river because the Ukrainians plan to break the dam at Novaya Kakhovka which serves the NPP at Energodar, south of Nikopol. This would flood parts further downstream. Given that the NPP needs water to cool the Plant it doesn't seem likely that Ukraine would instigate such damage but the Russians might, and then pitch the blame on Ukraine. This would be a good story to tell the folks home in Russia. The Russians have been reported to have kidnapped two further employees at the NPP. Maybe trying to get them to give up operational details? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Dev said: The Russians have been reported to have kidnapped two further employees at the NPP. Maybe trying to get them to give up operational details? More likely to remove personnel with expertise. Edited October 18, 2022 by Zen Archer (Raconteur) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Priti priti priti Patel Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) Could be the reason for Wallace legging it to DC. Feel a bit sick tbh. Edited October 19, 2022 by Priti priti priti Patel 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Dev said: ....Given that the NPP needs water to cool the Plant it doesn't seem likely that Ukraine would instigate such damage but the Russians might, and then pitch the blame on Ukraine. This would be a good story to tell the folks home in Russia.... Taking out the dam would completely disrupt Crimea's water supply because the intake to the canal involved lies on the reservoir near Nova Kakhovka so the Russians are not likely to do this. The more mundane explanation is that they now expect to lose Kherson city in the days or weeks ahead and it will take time to carry out an orderly evacuation by ferry given the road and rail bridges are severely damaged. Anyone who has collaborated with the Russian puppet authorties and armed forces and/or has accepted a Russian passport is looking at lengthy jail time once the boys from Kyiv show up. Edited October 19, 2022 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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