jagfox Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 I mean that is absolutely ludicrous.It's just the Express going full Sunday Sport but for gammons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Melanius Mullarkey Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 33 minutes ago, Dawson Park Boy said: I think Truss will fast track fracking as we have enormous reserves here in the UK. Read somewhere that we could be producing significant quantities within 6 months. Governments have been far too compliant to the green blob. Drill baby drill. Aye it’s as simple as that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 40 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: That article is from June, and states that production is being wound down rather than ramped up... It's being wound down because gas production caused earth tremors to keep environmentalists happy. It could pretty much at a flick of a switch be ramped up again in a way that would replace a significant portion of the missing supply from Russia. Odds on it will be if there is a big enough crisis this winter just as is the case with German nuclear power plants. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, Melanius Mullarkay said: Aye it’s as simple as that. Right now we are paying a premium on LNG shipments to have the fracking done in Texas instead of in the Blackpool area and wood pellets from the Amazon are being burned instead of coal produced domestically at the Drax power plant as supposedly sustainable biomass to keep the Green lobby happy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Right now we are paying a premium on LNG shipments to have the fracking done in Texas instead of in the Blackpool area and wood pellets from the Amazon are being burned instead of coal produced domestically at the Drax power plant as supposedly sustainable biomass to keep the Green lobby happy. Is the LNG being shipped over making its way into the gas grid, or being used in has fired power stations? Can the LNG producers get more money from selling this gas to the gas grid, or as feedstock for petrochemical processes? Can this type of LNG even be blended into the gas grid in the UK in appreciable quantities? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Dawson Park Boy said: I think Truss will fast track fracking as we have enormous reserves here in the UK. Read somewhere that we could be producing significant quantities within 6 months. Governments have been far too compliant to the green blob. Drill baby drill. That will be a great comfort to those that don’t make it through the winter. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said: That article is from June, and states that production is being wound down rather than ramped up. I've seen plenty of "this could be an alternative" suggestions, but none so far seem to be doing anything, which I think is pretty telling as to what use they will be in the short-term. The West appears to have completely underestimated Russian economic resolve in the face of sanctions whilst simultaneously forgotten that, in the short-term, our economic stability relies on Russian gas far more than they rely on us buying it. All the recent chat about how accepting a difficult winter is the price we need to pay in order to stand up to Russian aggression is bluster - this scenario wasn't part of the plan and any EU leader who tells you they aren't panicking about whether they have made a massive mistake is lying. Everyone expected it to be over in a month. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 53 minutes ago, LongTimeLurker said: It's being wound down because gas production caused earth tremors to keep environmentalists happy. It could pretty much at a flick of a switch be ramped up again in a way that would replace a significant portion of the missing supply from Russia. Odds on it will be if there is a big enough crisis this winter just as is the case with German nuclear power plants. And yet, in the 3 months since, it hasn't. Insteas the EU nations are about to spend hundreds of billions on aid packages and are talking about energy rationing over winter. Why would they choose to do that if they could just use this instead? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) Russia would never have invaded if they'd anticipated the West's reaction, and Ukraine's. Equally the West should have taken Russia's imperial strutting more seriously and thrown them some shiny pebbles like no prospects for Nato membership and Finland/Austria style (EU maybe) neutrality for Ukraine. Russia was always going to use the leverage of the energy stranglehold Germany (especially) walked into though, at least we know now that the Russian war machine isn't quite as formidable as we thought if they ever think about creating a land bridge to Kaliningrad. Edited September 6, 2022 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: ...Why would they choose to do that if they could just use this instead? Firstly things aren't bad enough yet to prompt key Dutch and German political parties to drop their opposition to these measures, secondly EU storage levels are higher than targeted at this time in part due to UK LNG terminals with FSRUs soon to be in place on the German coast and US LNG exports about to ramp up again from the Texas terminal that was damaged in an explosion, and thirdly it's only Nord Stream being closed off so far which already had reduced flow due to the earlier turbines saga. Edited September 6, 2022 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 6 hours ago, Dawson Park Boy said: I think Truss will fast track fracking as we have enormous reserves here in the UK. Read somewhere that we could be producing significant quantities within 6 months. Governments have been far too compliant to the green blob. Drill baby drill. Depends. If the wells were previously producing conventionally, and then shutdown, it might be practical to restart production via fracking within 6 months for a few wells, but it requires specialist equipment at each well for a period of time to restart, so it would be a prolonged process. If the wells were previously producing via fracking, you might never be able to restart them and even if successfully recommissioned, they might never reach previous production levels. Also, this process is even longer and more specialized. Drilling and fracking a new well is the “simplest”, from an initial equipment standpoint, but also the slowest and still needs special equipment to bring it online for production. Drill baby drill might help in 2 to 3 years or so. Living in Texas, let me assure you that you DON’T want fracking anywhere near your water supply. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 10 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Right now we are paying a premium on LNG shipments to have the fracking done in Texas instead of in the Blackpool area Well no, we're paying a premium - emptying the coffers of most of Europe - to produce record profits for American companies. Strange that the G7 didn't announce a price cap on all sources of energy in that context - so much for NATO solidarity! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 10 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Right now we are paying a premium on LNG shipments to have the fracking done in Texas instead of in the Blackpool area and wood pellets from the Amazon are being burned instead of coal produced domestically at the Drax power plant as supposedly sustainable biomass to keep the Green lobby happy. Yes I know that. Im talking about going in, fracking the f**k out of Lancashire and producing "significant quantities" within 6 months. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkay said: Yes I know that. Im talking about going in, fracking the f**k out of Lancashire and producing "significant quantities" within 6 months. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkay said: Yes I know that. Im talking about going in, fracking the f**k out of Lancashire and producing "significant quantities" within 6 months. Can’t be done, not “within 6 months”, see post 4 up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Melanius Mullarkay said: Yes I know that. Im talking about going in, fracking the f**k out of Lancashire and producing "significant quantities" within 6 months. On the other hand it could earthquake all the red wall constituencies into rubble, so not all bad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, TxRover said: Can’t be done, not “within 6 months”, see post 4 up. Indeed, but delusional Toryboy gonna delusional Toryboy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Maybe not the right thread but the CEO of the Turkish drone manufacturer Baykar has given an interview at a defence industry trade show. https://asia.nikkei.com/Editor-s-Picks/Interview/Drones-will-play-role-in-any-Taiwan-conflict-Turkey-s-Baykar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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