mcjameos Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Definitely had to happen. However the worry is there are so many out of work (failed) managers around at the moment.......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P.C Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 John Hughes beckons. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zanetti Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 I've mentioned his name previously on this thread, but I still think Tam Courts would be a decent appointment assuming he's given a bit of backing in January. The issues aren't purely due to the manager, the squad is simply not good enough either. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Absolutely gone at "Queen's Park would advise..." Sounds like a consultancy memo. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, Spidersmad said: There's a bitter irony in that the real architect of this shitshow has skipped the scene of the crime for Ajax. I presume a club like Ajax will give Beuker nothing like the amount of power he was given here. I thought QPmight have kept Veldman but in a strictly academy role. Not nice to see someone lose their job but something had to be done to arrest this decline. Thing is, whover comes in will have the exact same playing squad and that needs urgent repair. Beuker’s new role is specifically about building the structure through the club needed for the youth development. No budget, no contracts, no recruitment responsibilities. Says a lot. How easy our lot were to mug off with his “dent in the universe” speech. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Rico Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, D'Jaffo said: A couple of months ago I’d have said Ian McCall would’ve been a shoe in for this one. It’s hard to guess what the process actually was/is at the club. Went from a hugely experienced manager in Owen Coyle to someone who, despite coaching at a high level in Europe, had zero knowledge of the game here and it showed. Both managers tried to play a good style of football but with Veldman it looked like he was asking his players to do things they plainly weren’t capable of. I’m basing this purely on the 5-2 game and the first half of the game at Somerset so might be way off but that was my assessment. That’s a fair analysis. All that’s missing is the influence of the (now departed) director of football on the above. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledLichtie Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 That is an amazing statement. No thanks, no "wishing well", no details. That's one of the coldest club statement's I've read in quite some time. "Queen's Park would advise that Head Coach Robin Veldman has left the club following this afternoon's match with Inverness Caledonian Thistle. Further information will be issued by the club in the coming days." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiders For Life Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 (edited) We need some clear comms about who will be making the next set of decisions. Beuker and Veldman gone leaves a gaping hole over the whole football side of the club. If we’re still aiming to ‘stick to the model’ then our first team manager has to be aligned to whatever the youth teams are doing, and whoever the DoF is (if we continue having that role?). Today was the correct decision but I’ve got so little confidence in the decision makers at the club that I’ve got the fear we go for someone horrific from the usual manager merry-go-round. Edited December 9, 2023 by Spiders For Life 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an86 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Dempster sacked McKinnon and hired Ellis. Dempster was the architect of the “project” which is now over. Dempster allowed conditions to develop that led to Owen Coyle leaving and Robin Veldman coming in. Could write several paragraphs on Lesser Hampden and lack of communication. Her position is untenable. The committee have proven to be toothless and disinterested in the concerns of fans. They want to be having a look at what they’re contributing, or indeed not contributing. A complete shitshow. Veldman had to go, that’s pretty clear. He’s a symptom of a much bigger problem, though. We’ve blown a massive opportunity to grow something here and it’s so fucking depressing. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, ExiledLichtie said: That is an amazing statement. No thanks, no "wishing well", no details. That's one of the coldest club statement's I've read in quite some time. "Queen's Park would advise that Head Coach Robin Veldman has left the club following this afternoon's match with Inverness Caledonian Thistle. Further information will be issued by the club in the coming days." Maybe he sacked QP? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Rico Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bring Your Own Socks said: Maybe he sacked QP? I did think today he must be standing there in the rain wondering what the f**k am I doing here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring Your Own Socks Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, an86 said: Dempster sacked McKinnon and hired Ellis. Dempster was the architect of the “project” which is now over. Dempster allowed conditions to develop that led to Owen Coyle leaving and Robin Veldman coming in. Could write several paragraphs on Lesser Hampden and lack of communication. Her position is untenable. The committee have proven to be toothless and disinterested in the concerns of fans. They want to be having a look at what they’re contributing, or indeed not contributing. A complete shitshow. Veldman had to go, that’s pretty clear. He’s a symptom of a much bigger problem, though. We’ve blown a massive opportunity to grow something here and it’s so fucking depressing. If I’ve joined the dots right, Dempster is the agent provocateur for Haughey. The collapse of Queen’s Park Football Club Limited would suit them both. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 f**k sake. Who bullets their manager on a Saturday night?! Thread will be up within the hour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRJohnstone Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledLichtie Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Ludo*1 said: f**k sake. Who bullets their manager on a Saturday night?! Thread will be up within the hour. Did we not do that 2 weeks ago? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmonigatti Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Ludo*1 said: f**k sake. Who bullets their manager on a Saturday night?! Thread will be up within the hour. Make sure Tam Courts is on there! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an86 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Some amount of money pissed against a wall. Guy is on a three year deal. Beuker compo money probably going straight into Veldman’s pocket. Genuinely the worst run club in the country. An absolute fucking shambles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EaglesandSpiders Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 Veldman finally out before doing any more damage. Best news I've heard for a long time. Like an early Christmas present. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntiethumper Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 38 minutes ago, Spider Rico said: I did think today he must be standing there in the rain wondering what the f**k am I doing here. He wasn't the only one 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bully_wee Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 It's never nice to see an ambitious project going this way! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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