The Patrick Grady Affair

[Salt n Vinegar]

1 hour ago, AyrExile said:

Guess who's back 

Errrm... Arnold Schwarzenegger? 

[Suspect Device]

4 hours ago, AyrExile said:

Guess who's back 

Gary Glitter.

[Granny Danger]

Disgraceful decision.

[DeeTillEhDeh]

13 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

Disgraceful decision.

Who made the decision?

If it isn’t Stephen Flynn (and very bizarre if it was) then you'd suspect there's some shit stirring going on from the departed Blackford.

I get that the police investigation against Grady was dropped and he also apologised - but that isn't good enough - he should have been asked to resign.

It's also disgraceful when you see that Derek Mackay never had the whip reinstated after a similar allegation and non-prosecution.

 

 

Edited December 30, 2022 by DeeTillEhDeh

[AyrExile]

Does the return of the bold Paddy open the door for Derek McKay? I’d expect to see his name now somewhere around the Teflon don page on Wikipedia 

[ICTChris]

Patrick Grady planning to stand in Glasgow North and is going to woo the Catholic vote to keep his seat, apparently!

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/patrick-grady-mp-who-sexually-harassed-teenager-to-stand-again-j6hvk2dmh
 

[Theroadlesstravelled]

More sleaze by another small lipped, fat, speccy man.
The SNP used to be a decent party.

[StellarHibee]

3 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said:

More sleaze by another small lipped, fat, speccy man.
The SNP used to be a decent party.

Presumably he's standing as an independent not for the SNP. Although the media would like to give you the impression that he is.

[Donathan]

2 minutes ago, StellarHibee said:

Presumably he's standing as an independent not for the SNP. Although the media would like to give you the impression that he is.

He's been back on the SNP whip since December.

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

On 27/06/2022 at 13:31, Marlo Stanfield said:

Getting shot of Blackford would be a huge win for the SNP imo.

Anyone know how this will affect my exclusive Ian Blackford NFT ? Sell now or keep ?

[ICTChris]

Patrick Grady not selected to run in his constituency, effectively ending his political career. 

[KingRocketman II]

8 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Patrick Grady not selected to run in his constituency, effectively ending his political career. 

Good. I wrote to him when he first entered Westminster just as MPs had awarded themselves (or accepted) another pay rise.

I suggested that by him individually (and/or all other SNP MPs) refusing the pay rise or better, giving it to charity, this would show support to those at the lower rung of UK income levels as well as illustrating how SNP were indeed a breath of fresh air (as had been campaigned on). This I suggested would send out a strong signal. His response was basically that what individuals did with their income was a personal matter and if I wanted to buy some merchandise from his constituency shop, proceeds from that would go to charity. It was not made clear what % of proceeds would find its way to charity. 

 

[Wee Bully]

16 hours ago, KingRocketman II said:

Good. I wrote to him when he first entered Westminster just as MPs had awarded themselves (or accepted) another pay rise.

I suggested that by him individually (and/or all other SNP MPs) refusing the pay rise or better, giving it to charity, this would show support to those at the lower rung of UK income levels as well as illustrating how SNP were indeed a breath of fresh air (as had been campaigned on). This I suggested would send out a strong signal. His response was basically that what individuals did with their income was a personal matter and if I wanted to buy some merchandise from his constituency shop, proceeds from that would go to charity. It was not made clear what % of proceeds would find its way to charity. 

 

I’ve got to be honest - this giving salary to charity is utter nonsense.  

Different debate about whether there should be a pay rise or not, but once it has been awarded, it should be completely up to the recipient what they do with it.  If someone sent me a letter telling me I should give part of my salary to charity, I would tell them to bolt.

[KingRocketman II]

5 hours ago, Wee Bully said:

I’ve got to be honest - this giving salary to charity is utter nonsense.  

Different debate about whether there should be a pay rise or not, but once it has been awarded, it should be completely up to the recipient what they do with it.  If someone sent me a letter telling me I should give part of my salary to charity, I would tell them to bolt.

if you had lobbied publicly to get your job on the basis that current incumbents had their snouts n the trough, were out of touch with those outside their bubble, and that if you got the job you would be a breath of fresh air, then you would be a hypocrite in accepting any newly offered pay rise on gaining the job. 

If you were not appointed by the public to your current position, then your comparison is completely redundant. 

 

[Wee Bully]

17 hours ago, KingRocketman II said:

if you had lobbied publicly to get your job on the basis that current incumbents had their snouts n the trough, were out of touch with those outside their bubble, and that if you got the job you would be a breath of fresh air, then you would be a hypocrite in accepting any newly offered pay rise on gaining the job. 

If you were not appointed by the public to your current position, then your comparison is completely redundant. 

 

Utter nonsense. Taking the pay that is awarded to you is not “having your snout in the trough”. 

[ICTChris]

Did the SNP say they wouldn't take pay rises for MPs?

[alta-pete]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-ministers-wont-take-pay-26462548.amp

[Wee Bully]

6 hours ago, ICTChris said:

Did the SNP say they wouldn't take pay rises for MPs?

No, they didn’t. 

[Blue Brazil Forever]

7 hours ago, Wee Bully said:

Utter nonsense. Taking the pay that is awarded to you is not “having your snout in the trough”. 

My understanding of the "trough" is not the salaries Parliamentarians vote for themselves but the very substantial pool of funds which is available and can be be claimed for expenses, office rents, staffing  and equipment costs, jollies to outside meetings, conferences etc., hire of private jets, yachts, limos. I am sure there are other costs which can be reimbursed.

[Wee Bully]

1 hour ago, Blue Brazil Forever said:

My understanding of the "trough" is not the salaries Parliamentarians vote for themselves but the very substantial pool of funds which is available and can be be claimed for expenses, office rents, staffing  and equipment costs, jollies to outside meetings, conferences etc., hire of private jets, yachts, limos. I am sure there are other costs which can be reimbursed.

Which would completely negate the point made by @KingRocketman II.  Writing to someone insisting they should give part of their salary to charity is just the politics of envy.

I also don’t get the problem with the payment of legitimate expenses.  Abuse of expenses is not on, and should be a disciplinary issue.  Office rent, equipment costs etc are prerequisites of being able to represent your constituents.