kirkyblue2 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Was our friendly supposed to be an easy game? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 26 minutes ago, Rjc-1988 said: In my mind we freed three excellent players - Hilson, Dowie and Higgy. I can just about get the Dowie release - the other two don't make any sense especially when you see the calibre of the replacements being mooted. Stirling scored after 3 minutes yesterday. Its been said before but the central defence was roundly criticised last season, its hardly a surprise to see two of the three released, one of whom has gone part time, the other dropped a division. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustafa_sheet Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Stirling scored after 3 minutes yesterday. Its been said before but the central defence was roundly criticised last season, its hardly a surprise to see two of the three released, one of whom has gone part time, the other dropped a division. That's fine releasing the central defence provided we replace them with better players. A few of the goals conceded last season were down to the clown we had between the sticks and he has now been replaced. I think we may live to regret letting both experienced CB's go. Time will tell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumfries Boy(new acc) Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Naysmith has said he's looking for versatile players Hilson can play on the wing or as a striker and Higgins can play anywhere along the back line surely the type of players he needs Still don't understand them decisions and I feel they will come back to haunt us when we get injuries and suspensions 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 2 hours ago, Mustafa_sheet said: That's fine releasing the central defence provided we replace them with better players. A few of the goals conceded last season were down to the clown we had between the sticks and he has now been replaced. I think we may live to regret letting both experienced CB's go. Time will tell. Well, obviously. But you cant hold onto players until you bring someone else in. You have to make the decision that they're not good enough and let them go - a decision many fans had made at Christmas, yet now is somehow seen as a mistake. As I said, neither have been picked up by other full time Championship clubs. Yet, we've signed a replacement who was Dunfermlines captain and another who was playing at a higher level. 1 hour ago, Dumfries Boy(new acc) said: Naysmith has said he's looking for versatile players Hilson can play on the wing or as a striker and Higgins can play anywhere along the back line surely the type of players he needs Still don't understand them decisions and I feel they will come back to haunt us when we get injuries and suspensions Hes already signed two defenders who can play in the middle or at full back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broony88 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Lyndon has his sights set elsewhere this season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGdavieT Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Nobody thinks Hilson's release was based on ability though do they? He's a good player. He's been released because of his injury record. So even if he scored all 9 against Nairn it's irrelevant really. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjc-1988 Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Personally I feel that in the case of Higgy he was a model professional, club captain for several years,a big part of a very successful period and a player whom you could rely on to dig deep and get the job done.He also played really well in season run in.None of these factors seemed to contribute to end decision.Playing devils advocate Callum Tapping was retained having hardly featured in two years at Palmerston and been on the sidelines with previous clubs.Hilson has had his injury setbacks but nothing on scale of Callum. I sincerely hope that Tapping is a success because the guy unquestionably deserves some luck but the rationale behind these decisions is quite hard to fathom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fae_the_'briggs Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 9 hours ago, Broony88 said: Lyndon has his sights set elsewhere this season. Hoping a bit of ability rubs off on him. That's probably the closest he'll get. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 2 hours ago, Rjc-1988 said: Personally I feel that in the case of Higgy he was a model professional, club captain for several years,a big part of a very successful period and a player whom you could rely on to dig deep and get the job done.He also played really well in season run in.None of these factors seemed to contribute to end decision. Playing devils advocate Callum Tapping was retained having hardly featured in two years at Palmerston and been on the sidelines with previous clubs.Hilson has had his injury setbacks but nothing on scale of Callum. I sincerely hope that Tapping is a success because the guy unquestionably deserves some luck but the rationale behind these decisions is quite hard to fathom. Well said There's no consistency in the managers decisions, barring Lyle he's got shot of anyone with any history with the club. Anderson,Dowie,Hamil ,Atkinson Robinson,Higgins, Basically anyone with experience and an opinion. It should be an interesting season if nothing else. Not sure about his player choice or His man management skills, only time will tell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumfries Boy(new acc) Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 3 hours ago, BIGdavieT said: Nobody thinks Hilson's release was based on ability though do they? He's a good player. He's been released because of his injury record. Yet his replacement has been injured all season? Carmichael is just as likely as Hilson to get injured,Hilson Injury wasn't reaccuring it was a different foot both time 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 3 hours ago, BIGdavieT said: Nobody thinks Hilson's release was based on ability though do they? He's a good player. He's been released because of his injury record. So even if he scored all 9 against Nairn it's irrelevant really. This. Its no coincidence that saintees have only given him 6 months 2 hours ago, Rjc-1988 said: Personally I feel that in the case of Higgy he was a model professional, club captain for several years,a big part of a very successful period and a player whom you could rely on to dig deep and get the job done.He also played really well in season run in.None of these factors seemed to contribute to end decision. Playing devils advocate Callum Tapping was retained having hardly featured in two years at Palmerston and been on the sidelines with previous clubs.Hilson has had his injury setbacks but nothing on scale of Callum. I sincerely hope that Tapping is a success because the guy unquestionably deserves some luck but the rationale behind these decisions is quite hard to fathom. Its not as simple as that though is it? Without knowing the exact nature of the injuries or how their rehabs went how can you say one is a bigger gamble than the other? 24 minutes ago, Besty said: Well said There's no consistency in the managers decisions, barring Lyle he's got shot of anyone with any history with the club. Anderson,Dowie,Hamil ,Atkinson Robinson,Higgins, Basically anyone with experience and an opinion. It should be an interesting season if nothing else. Not sure about his player choice or His man management skills, only time will tell. Barring Lyle? And Dobbie and Carmichael. If Atkinson wasnt going to play then his wages are better spent elsewhere and hes better off moving for the sake of his career. Three of the four signings have plenty of experience at this level. Much like Dowie and Higgins, looking at where a player ends up after leaving gives a reasonable indication of whether or not the decision to let them go was right. All but Dowie have dropped at least one level and it remains to be seen if Robinson will even pick up a club this summer. 16 minutes ago, Dumfries Boy(new acc) said: Yet his replacement has been injured all season? Carmichael is just as likely as Hilson to get injured,Hilson Injury wasn't reaccuring it was a different foot both time Surely Hilsons replacement is Stirling? When was the last time you saw a club at this level offer a 6 month deal in the summer? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Hoping a bit of ability rubs off on him. That's probably the closest he'll get. In fairness though dobbie has ability to spare. Not that lyndon dykes needs it of course 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Is McFadden likely to feature as trialist again against annan? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coo shedder Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Is McFadden likely to feature as trialist again against annan? Press reporting McFadden will play against Annan but McLean looking for a club elsewhere. Take it from that Gary still assessing Faddy but didn't fancy McLean. Maybe better options available. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisxiv Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Can't say I'm sorry to hear that. McLean looked way off the pace on Saturday. So did Faddy right enough but at least we know there's a player in there, albeit an elderly one! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) 8 hours ago, Mr X said: This. Its no coincidence that saintees have only given him 6 months Its not as simple as that though is it? Without knowing the exact nature of the injuries or how their rehabs went how can you say one is a bigger gamble than the other? Barring Lyle? And Dobbie and Carmichael. If Atkinson wasnt going to play then his wages are better spent elsewhere and hes better off moving for the sake of his career. Three of the four signings have plenty of experience at this level. Much like Dowie and Higgins, looking at where a player ends up after leaving gives a reasonable indication of whether or not the decision to let them go was right. All but Dowie have dropped at least one level and it remains to be seen if Robinson will even pick up a club this summer. Surely Hilsons replacement is Stirling? When was the last time you saw a club at this level offer a 6 month deal in the summer? I don't think you can put Dobbie into the equation. Carmichael will be playing for buttons and will be a bit part player .so I wasn't far away Naysmith's bringing in his "yes men" Double agent Rankin will never see the season out as captain. he flatters to deceive. Can't see Robinson wanting a club , paid holidays take some beating .maybe the next window If he gets bored I suppose see if the gaffers still around. Edited July 3, 2017 by Besty 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Vojáček Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 8 hours ago, Mr X said: Surely Hilsons replacement is Stirling? When was the last time you saw a club at this level offer a 6 month deal in the summer? We brought Darren Barr in on an initial 6 month deal in June 2015 - basically to act as insurance against his pretty horrific injury record. I'd imagine the Hilson deal might be similar given how injured he was at Queens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Besty Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 4 minutes ago, Sonsteam of 08 said: We brought Darren Barr in on an initial 6 month deal in June 2015 - basically to act as insurance against his pretty horrific injury record. I'd imagine the Hilson deal might be similar given how injured he was at Queens. I'm sure 6 months suits both parties. Puts Dale in the shop window and the club get as good luck at him the see how he hits in . I liked him when he played the whole team looked more attacking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 26 minutes ago, Besty said: I don't think you can put Dobbie into the equation. Carmichael will be playing for buttons and will be a bit part player .so I wasn't far away Naysmith's bringing in his "yes men" Double agent Rankin will never see the season out as captain. he flatters to deceive. Can't see Robinson wanting a club , paid holidays take some beating .maybe the next window If he gets bored I suppose see if the gaffers still around. Dobbie doesnt have a history with the club? I think we're done 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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