Barney Rubble Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 It astonishes me the number of bars and restaurants I have gone into during daylight hours this summer that still have banks of lights on when there is no necessity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Heard an owner of a Chinese takeaway on the radio this morning, his quarterly energy bills have went from around £2.5k to £16k. My work has went from £75k in the quarter to £250k. Businesses cannot sustain that shirley.I reckon most Chinese takeaways will be fine given they've probably got thousands stashed away. About the only business left where it's a genuine surprise if you can pay by card. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Barney Rubble said: It astonishes me the number of bars and restaurants I have gone into during daylight hours this summer that still have banks of lights on when there is no necessity. I recently had the opposite in Dunfermline's 'bier helle' where you weren't far off needing a torch to find one's way about the place. Eta: just me or have they f***ed up 'beer halle', with 'bier helle' (somewhat ironically) meaning beer light? @Shandon Par Edited August 8, 2022 by Hedgecutter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: I recently had the opposite in Dunfermline's 'bier helle' where you weren't far off needing a torch to find one's way about the place. Eta: just me or have they f***ed up 'beer halle', with 'bier helle' (somewhat ironically) meaning beer light? @Shandon Par The Bier Halle in Glasgow is similar (I’m guessing it’s the same chain) Although it’s downstairs with no natural light I doubt many people will be paying £9.50 a pint in the coming months. That’s another that might struggle to survive 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Touristy places might see a downturn if things get bad. Restaurants, bars, hotels/self catering places etc might struggle, especially since most of them already charge a fortune. Depends how touristy they are. Just returned from both Durham and the Lake District and both were hoaching as ever. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Clown Job said: The Bier Halle in Glasgow is similar (I’m guessing it’s the same chain) Although it’s downstairs with no natural light I doubt many people will be paying £9.50 a pint in the coming months. That’s another that might struggle to survive Be surprised if people that pay £9.50 a pint are struggling with their energy bills. Probably less custom lost for places charging that than your average boozer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Clown Job said: The Bier Halle in Glasgow is similar (I’m guessing it’s the same chain) Although it’s downstairs with no natural light I doubt many people will be paying £9.50 a pint in the coming months. That’s another that might struggle to survive Mentioned this in the Covid thread but when I was at the Three Sisters in Edinburgh the other week there. I was charged £29 for 4 pints and a vodka-coke. Can see pubs/clubs struggle to survive in the coming months like you said with prices like the above. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Clown Job said: The Bier Halle in Glasgow is similar (I’m guessing it’s the same chain) Although it’s downstairs with no natural light I doubt many people will be paying £9.50 a pint in the coming months. That’s another that might struggle to survive The one in Dunf had one draught pint option I was in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 On 07/08/2022 at 10:10, 19QOS19 said: No idea how they keep popping up tbh. Was in one the other day for a look but never bought anything. Even the odd time I have it's been one item as it's extortionate. I refuse to believe folk go into those places and make purchases regularly. They always seem to be run by sour faced c***s as well. Being here in the States, and having not be made aware of the “American Candy Store” phenomena, is it as simple as it sounds? If it’s true, it’s a truly mind blowing concept given the quality of British/European candies over most American ones. At its most basic, American candy is massively handicapped by shite chocolate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Seen it suggested they're all about money laundering apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Grant228 said: Seen it suggested they're all about money laundering apparently. Fascinating, the banks here are plenty happy to facilitate that, as long as you properly structure your deposits. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said: Mentioned this in the Covid thread but when I was at the Three Sisters in Edinburgh the other week there. I was charged £29 for 4 pints and a vodka-coke. What were the pints of? £6 a pint and £5 a vodka and coke isn't bad - in my experience of Edinburgh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 hours ago, TxRover said: Fascinating, the banks here are plenty happy to facilitate that, as long as you properly structure your deposits. I don't think they are set up by Americans struggling to launder their money back home. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, TxRover said: Being here in the States, and having not be made aware of the “American Candy Store” phenomena, is it as simple as it sounds? If it’s true, it’s a truly mind blowing concept given the quality of British/European candies over most American ones. At its most basic, American candy is massively handicapped by shite chocolate. Money laundering and/or some method of dodging rate payments. Oxford Street in London is full of them and they're all always empty. No chance money is being made, even from the hilarious prices they charge. Seemingly there's some loophole in subleasing the units so that the owners of the units don't have to pay rates. Don't fully understand how it works, bit the end result is one party passing on their responsibility to pay. The failure to sell bars of Hershey, which is the only chocolate in the world that tastes like vomit, is not their concern. There is a small level of drmand for American 'candy' in the UK. Usually for certain flavours of M&M that are hard to get here or aren't sold. Edited August 9, 2022 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Michael W said: Money laundering and/or some method of dodging rate payments. Oxford Street in London is full of them and they're all always empty. No chance money is being made, even from the hilarious prices they charge. Seemingly there's some loophole in subleasing the units so that the owners of the units don't have to pay rates. Don't fully understand how it works, bit the end result is one party passing on their responsibility to pay. The failure to sell bars of Hershey, which is the only chocolate in the world that tastes like vomit, is not their concern. I read about this - apparently it's as simple as the liability for business rates lies with the leaseholder if the property is empty but passes to the tenant when let. The tenant is hard to pin down and makes no money anyway so no chance to recover the inevitably unpaid rates. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipa Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, hk blues said: I read about this - apparently it's as simple as the liability for business rates lies with the leaseholder if the property is empty but passes to the tenant when let. The tenant is hard to pin down and makes no money anyway so no chance to recover the inevitably unpaid rates. I believe there are schemes where you can get a period (6 months?) rates free as a business 'startup', hence these type of shops will often appear for a few months, close down and then open round the corner under a slightly different name. On businesses not surviving, I suspect there will be many small independents who have just scraped through the last two years as a result of the owners putting in everything they have to try to get it through, possibly even borrowing when the finish line appeared to be in sight, only to now find themselves being tripped on the home straight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Shipa said: I believe there are schemes where you can get a period (6 months?) rates free as a business 'startup', hence these type of shops will often appear for a few months, close down and then open round the corner under a slightly different name. On businesses not surviving, I suspect there will be many small independents who have just scraped through the last two years as a result of the owners putting in everything they have to try to get it through, possibly even borrowing when the finish line appeared to be in sight, only to now find themselves being tripped on the home straight. That makes sense. Either way, the leaseholder will be able to avoid paying business rates and the leaseholder is no doubt happy to help the tenant with a contribution for set up costs. Everyone's a winner. Almost! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 I think a lot of pubs were on the way out regardless. It's just too costly now. More and more people are deciding that it simply isn't worth being massively ripped off and giving them a miss. Also the drinking culture with younger folk seems to be changing, possibly because it's so expensive. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 7 hours ago, Lyle Lanley said: Mentioned this in the Covid thread but when I was at the Three Sisters in Edinburgh the other week there. I was charged £29 for 4 pints and a vodka-coke. Can see pubs/clubs struggle to survive in the coming months like you said with prices like the above. What did you expect in an Edinburgh City centre pub? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post coprolite Posted August 9, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, throbber said: The drinking culture changing isn’t all down to cost it’s largely down to social media and more variety for the youth of today. Back when I was 20 almost everyone was out drinking every weekend until the pubs shut and I’m not entirely convinced this was a good thing. It was. It was fucking great. 24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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