williemillersmoustache Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Pantomime season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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btb Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Quote Wallace is a favourite among many Tory members and had been expected to be a contender to succeed Johnson, deciding not to do so for reasons that remain unclear. I have no recollection of him from his stint as a list MSP, but find "reasons that remain unclear" intruiging. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 It would be truly bizarre if the Tories went into the next election with Johnson as leader. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, LIVIFOREVER said: Banking on the GBP having memories like goldfish They’d probably win that bet sadly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiG Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, Michael W said: Reminder that there is no limit on how far down someone can go. Look.at these two: "Please come back boss". What an embarrassment, from two men with absolutely no self-respect. I genuinely forgot that Johnson won a GE. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 If Johnson makes it to a membership vote, he will win. I wouldn't be particularly surprised if, having just chosen an economically far right zealot and watched it implode, they now pivot to a socially far right zealot and choose an outright culture war obsessed fascist like Braverman in the hope there's some political capital to be found in outlawing protests while ramping up attacks on immigration and trans rights, but Truss and Kwarteng have surely been too fucked up for another radical jump to appeal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid android Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 I'm actually much happier at a tory being publicly called 'a c**t' than I am about Truss going. The bad news is that their next leader will be a right nasty b*****d. Surely there has to be a general election after this farce? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paranoid android Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Johnson coming back, Trump coming back, and yet Robbie Neilson is still in a joab! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 and you think it cant get any worse then they talk about Boris coming back, ffs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: If Johnson makes it to a membership vote, he will win. I wouldn't be particularly surprised if, having just chosen an economically far right zealot and watched it implode, they now pivot to a socially far right zealot and choose an outright culture war obsessed fascist like Braverman in the hope there's some political capital to be found in outlawing protests while ramping up attacks on immigration and trans rights, but Truss and Kwarteng have surely been too fucked up for another radical jump to appeal. I've been saying for a while on here that I fully expected the Tories to fight the next GE on nothing but a soundbite filled culture war basis. I meant that though in the context of Johnson fighting a flippant, glib campaign based on slandering opponents rather than espousing views and policies that he actually believes. Unfortunately, I can still see the GE being fought on the same grounds, but as you allude to, the even more horrifying thing is that if it's a Braverman/Badenoch led Tory party, they will actually be fighting a culture war rooted in their own deeply held hatred of minorities. I've also said that I think any long-term involvement of Braverman in UK politics will inevitably lead to a media-driven return to a 'discussion' over capital punishment, and I absolutely would not put it past these reprehensible worstcunts to bring that into the fold as an electoral football. Edited October 20, 2022 by Boo Khaki 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, paranoid android said: I'm actually much happier at a tory being publicly called 'a c**t' than I am about Truss going. The bad news is that their next leader will be a right nasty b*****d. Surely there has to be a general election after this farce? We've already had Truss and the only one who could Trump her in the "nasty" stakes in Braverman and She's highly unlikely to get anywhere near it. Sunak is pretty moderate (by Tory standards) and Mordaunt although on the Right isn't anywhere near as bad as Truss or Braverman. The bottom line remains however, that we simply shouldn't be having this utter charade forced upon us (again) as they are a busted flush and should be nowhere near Government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Antlion said: Given you literally just ignore anything you don’t want to address and just keep attacking the same straw man instead, I’d imagine to you it would be. Is the 'just ignoring' part when I try to answer each objection to Labour point by point? Whether that is on immigration, trade unions, Independence etc. On the other hand any objection to the SNP's plans for Independence are met with a standard 'we will get the government we vote for in an Independent Scotland, and that is all that matters'. Edited October 20, 2022 by Jedi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colkitto Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 The UK is so much of a shit show that Boris will be PM next week!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williemillersmoustache Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 The "good" news with so many already throwing their rings into the hat is that this won't be over quickly enough and they'll tear themselves apart again doing it. Hopefully in time for a Complete the Trilogy Christmas Tory Leadership Election Special. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Boris will beat Keith in a GE. Labour’s hopes of being in power are over. It was an exciting 8 weeks for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted October 20, 2022 Author Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jedi said: we will get the government we vote for in an Independent Scotland You say that as if it’s a bad thing The Government would also be far more accountable to the population knowing they can get the boot Unlike now, where you don’t need the jocks to win an election, they need to bend the knee to English gammons to win 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDoddyKane Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 (edited) I would think only Rishi Sunak could provide any stability to the Tories just now, Boris will be a complete shit show. He might bring them up in the polls but all the baggage he brings, all the things coming up still for him it would be lunacy for the tory party to make him leader. So theres a good chance it happens I hope to f**k Labour win the next GE and SNP get 50% or more of vote, Can Labour realistically win without winning more seats in Scotland? Edited October 20, 2022 by BigDoddyKane 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Clown Job said: You say that as if it’s a bad thing The Government would also be far more accountable to the population knowing they can get the boot Unlike now, where you don’t need the jocks to win an election, they need to bend the knee to English gammons to win Except we won't really we will? Given that combined more people vote against the SNP than for them, but in the first few Scottish Elections they will be a shoe in....so most of Scotland still won't get the government they voted for.Still.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 1 minute ago, BigDoddyKane said: I hope to f**k Labour win the next GE and SNP get 50% or more of vote, Can Labour realistically win without winning more seats in Scotland On current polling, yes, Labour can win without needing many seats in Scotland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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