The_Kincardine Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Not so up to date with social media shite. From what I can gather this was the crowd for the recent AUOB parade: In contrast, only a few dafties turned up to celebrate her Maj's jubilee: - but at least they said 'Yes' to her. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 8 hours ago, The_Kincardine said: Not so up to date with social media shite. From what I can gather this was the crowd for the recent AUOB parade: In contrast, only a few dafties turned up to celebrate her Maj's jubilee: - but at least they said 'Yes' to her. Everyone wearing a mask, "x" marks on the floor. Almost like this photo was taken during a pandemic and people are social distancing within it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coprolite Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 9 hours ago, invergowrie arab said: As part of a settlement in the less than 2 years between Brunaburh and his death. He was in no sense ever king of these territories. No. Constantine had accepted Aethelstan as overlord/overking a good ten years before he invaded what was then Scotland. I guess you could view him as more of an emperor than a king. I suppose it depends how you define "king" but to say "he was in no sense ever king" is a bit strong. The feudal pecking order stopped at him, above the nominal king of the Scots. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albus Bulbasaur Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 14 hours ago, Clown Job said: I’ve got zero respect for anyone who accepts one of these honours Especially the ones who claim to be working class, absolute sell outs What about the multitude of former celtc players that have recieved them? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Albus Bulbasaur said: What about the multitude of former celtc players that have recieved them? Was my “I have zero respect for anyone” not clear enough for you? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albus Bulbasaur Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Clown Job said: Was my “I have zero respect for anyone” not clear enough for you? Evidently it wasn't something I really believed. I've never seen a celtc fan say they've zero respect for players like Paul McStay, Danny McGrain and Billy McNeil. Let alone this guy... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Albus Bulbasaur said: Evidently it wasn't something I really believed. I've never seen a celtc fan say they've zero respect for players like Paul McStay, Danny McGrain and Billy McNeil. Let alone this guy... Was that the only reason you asked me that question so you could post this? I don’t see everything through the prism of football. Im not a weirdo 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albus Bulbasaur Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Clown Job said: Was that the only reason you asked me that question so you could post this? I don’t see everything through the prism of football. Im not a weirdo Well yeah, it seemed quite a wild statement from yourself so I thought I'd clarify. Just for ultimate clarity though you have zero respect for those celtc players? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milhouse Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 20 hours ago, Richey Edwards said: They always have been. Is this really news to anyone? Hmmm...is this really the case though? Does anyone really know? Unfortunately we live in a country -bizarrely - where the established opinion is such that wishing a democratically elected Head of State is seen as completely radical. The SNP perhaps do not take a clear position on the Monarchy because it softens the overall picture of having another position which is seen as radical - Scottish Independence. It can then allow the SNP a broader appeal to those who are unnerved by 'radical' concepts. Hopefully, of course, in an independent Scotland there would be a loud voice to sever all ties with the Monarchy - which I think would be best replaced by a fixed term (10 years?) democratically elected figurehead/ceremonial Head of State position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
velo army Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, milhouse said: Hmmm...is this really the case though? Does anyone really know? Unfortunately we live in a country -bizarrely - where the established opinion is such that wishing a democratically elected Head of State is seen as completely radical. The SNP perhaps do not take a clear position on the Monarchy because it softens the overall picture of having another position which is seen as radical - Scottish Independence. It can then allow the SNP a broader appeal to those who are unnerved by 'radical' concepts. Hopefully, of course, in an independent Scotland there would be a loud voice to sever all ties with the Monarchy - which I think would be best replaced by a fixed term (10 years?) democratically elected figurehead/ceremonial Head of State position. This is exactly it. The Nats are just playing the game here. They're also a broad church and there will be a wide consensus within the party regarding the royals. They're not a socialist party. Post indy there will be a call for a referendum on the royal family. It's not a battle that needs to be fought before there are the powers to do so. I'm quite sanguine about people accepting honours and don't particularly see it as some kind of class betrayal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsimButtHitsASix Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Do Sweden still choose a random Swede every week to run the country's official twitter? Independent Scotland should do that but, as well as running the twitter account, ye also get to be head of state. If ye run the twitter while parliament is sitting you get to put one law into parliament for them to vote on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: Do Sweden still choose a random Swede every week to run the country's official twitter? Independent Scotland should do that but, as well as running the twitter account, ye also get to be head of state. If ye run the twitter while parliament is sitting you get to put one law into parliament for them to vote on. San Marino elect two new heads of state every six months. I'm no mathematician, but in a country with a population of 34,000, that means everyone is guaranteed a stint in charge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shandon Par Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 There are plenty of tests that show randomly appointed leaders perform fine/better overall. It probably means more humble/less egotistical people get a chance rather than megalomaniacs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 2 hours ago, AsimButtHitsASix said: Do Sweden still choose a random Swede every week to run the country's official twitter? Independent Scotland should do that but, as well as running the twitter account, ye also get to be head of state. If ye run the twitter while parliament is sitting you get to put one law into parliament for them to vote on. I just imagine what changes @throbber would make to the flag. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacDuffman Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Why do we need anyone for this position? What would there purpose be? If we have an elected First Minister is that not enough? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, MacDuffman said: Why do we need anyone for this position? What would there purpose be? If we have an elected First Minister is that not enough? Jerry Sadowitz. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 26 minutes ago, MacDuffman said: Why do we need anyone for this position? What would there purpose be? If we have an elected First Minister is that not enough? Countries need a Head of State. Many combine that with the Head of Government (ie the USA where the President is both). Others have separate (Ireland has an elected President as head of state but a different head of Government). Monarchies act as Head of State whilst someone else (in our case the PM) is Head of Government. So yes, an independent Scotland could have the FM as both, or we could elect a ceremonial Head of State, or keep the monarchy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 54 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Countries need a Head of State. Many combine that with the Head of Government (ie the USA where the President is both). Others have separate (Ireland has an elected President as head of state but a different head of Government). Monarchies act as Head of State whilst someone else (in our case the PM) is Head of Government. So yes, an independent Scotland could have the FM as both, or we could elect a ceremonial Head of State, or keep the monarchy. Separate elected head of state need not be ceremonial. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 12 hours ago, Granny Danger said: Separate elected head of state need not be ceremonial. Correct, constitutional monarchs cannot fulfill many of the requirements of a head of state and this can (and has) lead to constitutional crisis'. Ireland has a pretty good system to replicate. Re. Honours I also have no problem with people accepting them, there aren't non royal honours and it's not as if you have to agree with a government to accept the Légion d'honneur (I turned mine down for other reasons). The only exceptions would be an outspoken Republican or person who built their career on being anti establishment or their class credentials - it would apply to Lord Prescott had that ship not already sailed long ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 7 hours ago, Satoshi said: The only exceptions would be an outspoken Republican or person who built their career on being anti establishment or their class credentials - it would apply to Lord Prescott had that ship not already sailed long ago. Which is fair enough for minor honours but when you get to peerages that interpretation is problematic because it would mean that you're disbarring people from sitting in the Parliaments 2nd legislative chamber purely because of their republican, anti establishment or class credentials. If Baron Prescott was insisting on people calling him "My Lord" and wearing Ermine at every available opportunity then your criticism would be more than fair. But in this case it's probably better to hate the game as opposed to the player 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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