Gordopolis Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Interesting development at the Welsh FA, in that they're looking into changing the name of the national team to Cymru following the upcoming World Cup: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63456797 Made me consider the merits/point of such a move for Scotland. Would there be any benefit for us to change to (presumably) 'Alba'? Obvious major issue would be the heavy political connotations. Also, I wouldn't want to change just because Wales have done it. I do like the move they are making though. What do folk think? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Do it just to wind up the Doogie Ross types. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Bring back Caledonian 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I think around 30-40% of Welsh people can speak the Welsh language to some degree. They sing their national anthem in Welsh and it's a big part of their national identity. The similar figure for Gaelic in Scotland is 1%, if that - heavily geographically concentrated in the Highlands, and specific parts of the Highlands at that. I just don't think Scottish Gaelic in Scotland is comparable to Welsh speaking in Wales. For that reason I don't think it really fits. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 (edited) Circa 29% of the Welsh population speak Welsh (https://gov.wales/welsh-language-use-wales-initial-findings-july-2019-march-2020-revised-html#:~:text=The survey for the year,the Welsh Language Use Surveys.). Circa 1.4% of the Scottish population speak Gaelic (https://www.scotlandscensus.gov.uk/census-results/at-a-glance/languages/). Edited November 1, 2022 by DA Baracus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Changing the name is a bit much for all the reasons above but I'd like to see Alba given more prominence than, to my recollection, on the back of the shirt about 15 years ago and on the latest kit's socks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Get the Joy of Dunlop oot to sing Griogal Cridhe before each game. IMVHO Spoiler 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Effie Deans would get really confused. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Pass from me. We are an English-speaking country so I don't see the benefit in changing our name to Gaelic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Very few Scottish people actually pronounce Alba correctly so I'm not sure it's wise to change the name to that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pie Of The Month Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Only if we put it on the front of our shirt backwards for people to see in their rear view mirror like we're an Ambaileans. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venti Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I liked her in Dark Angel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Pie Of The Month said: Only if we put it on the front of our shirt backwards for people to see in their rear view mirror like we're an Ambaileans. That had never occurred to me in all the years I've seen it done. I'm flabbergasted! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gannonball Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 He’s already been capped for Spain 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dav nan Gael Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 I can speak some gaelic but we should remain Scotland as the vast majority of our country, don't speak or know the gaelic language. Welsh is everywhere in Wales,from street signs to road markings, the language is their no.1 cultural identity,so changing to Cymru for them is a no-brainer. Also a distinct lack of Union flags when I was in Wales during the summer,they're also massive on their "Dragon" national flag,it was everywhere.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordopolis Posted November 1, 2022 Author Share Posted November 1, 2022 Pretty unanimous so far based on the language stats.Can anyone explain why the Welsh language remains so much more "alive" than Gaelic? Both were outlawed by the English (Welsh in 16th c and Gaelic in the 17th and 18th cs). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkieRR Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Oh Flower of Alba... No Alba no party... Nah. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 6 hours ago, Clown Job said: Bring back Caledonian you called......... Anyway, for what its worth I think he is a fantastic player and he has had a tremendous career but I am pretty sure he has already been capped by Spain 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clown Job Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 33 minutes ago, Gordopolis said: Pretty unanimous so far based on the language stats. Can anyone explain why the Welsh language remains so much more "alive" than Gaelic? Both were outlawed by the English (Welsh in 16th c and Gaelic in the 17th and 18th cs). A large number of Scots are very hostile towards anything Scottish Taking a guess here, I’m assuming the “Welsh cringe” isn’t a thing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, Gordopolis said: Pretty unanimous so far based on the language stats. Can anyone explain why the Welsh language remains so much more "alive" than Gaelic? Both were outlawed by the English (Welsh in 16th c and Gaelic in the 17th and 18th cs). Very broadly speaking the industrial revolution. Welsh was spoken where slate, coal, copper etc could be extracted and steel works were built meaning a sustainable population of Welsh speakers could be maintained. By contrast at the same time, as well as forced clearances, economic migration from the Gàidhealtachd to the central belt to work in the same industries severely weakened Gaelic. Education policies, the wars, patterns of agricultural land use etc are all a factor too but had coal or iron ore been mined on an industrial scale in the Highlands then it might have been different. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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