Dunfermline v Falkirk

[CallumPar]

6 minutes ago, SouthStander1876 said:

He's been brilliant actually. Confidently top 2 in the league

Just behind Benedictus then?

I liked Donaldson when he was with us. He did well, albeit in a dreadful team. I was jealous when he signed for you guys. But he’s prone to a stinker - as he had last night. Been decent the other 2 times we’ve played you though. Very good defender at this level. Not sure I’d have Donaldson ahead of Breen or Benedictus, but he’s definitely one of the best defenders at this level.

[Ned Nederlander]

14 hours ago, Ned Nederlander said:

I said at the time it looked a bit like the Pars were claiming for a ball that might not've crossed the line but didn't think for a second that it actually might not've.

Jeez! Looks like it didn't cross after all!

Dunfermline were certainly on top second half but the heads went down after that - small margins etc.

[Heaton]

1 hour ago, Grant228 said:

The full unmuted highlights. 

 

Chuckle. 

Full as well. Not missing out us hiting the post in the first half and making it look like the Falkirk show

[ShaggerG]

12 minutes ago, SouthStander1876 said:

Agree with all of this apart from Mackie. Quite confident the 2nd goal wouldn't have happened if McKay was on the pitch.

TBF I couldn't tell you what happened with either goal. Seems the first may not have been in and I thought the Dunfermline player had hand balled it when Kinnear tried to clear. I assume this wasn't the case though as it seems the other 9499 folk in the ground didn't agree!

[Salvo Montalbano]

2 minutes ago, ShaggerG said:

I haven't read any of the thread since before the game started as I can't be arsed reading the inevitable vitriol.

The better team won the game and the best team is going to win the league. McPake will know that nothing fancy is required now and Dunfermline will do what they've done all season and win it in a canter.

As far as we are concerned, we were absolutely shite last night. Once again we've choked in a big game and essentially made things easy for Dunfermline. I think the keeper did ok, Mackie was all right, Rowe was ok when anyone bothered to give him the ball and Henderson and Burrell weren't completely disastrous when they came on. The rest were minging. I expressed my concerns on young Max being a starter given the occasion, crowd and the fact that he'd be up against better players and it seems I was right. The man who really got on my tits though was Donaldson. It may be he's playing as he does on the manager's instruction, but he looks like he's out for a gentle stroll rather than playing football. He has always been one that slows the play but this seems to becoming a notable feature. He consistently ignored Rowe in acres of space when an attack was on and either turned and gave it to Mackie or straight to the opposition. He's a good player and should be comfortable at this level but I think he's slowly turning in to a liability.

 

 

 

The thread has actually been reasonably restrained tbf, I'm planning in taking as much credit as possible for extending an ilive branch on the Falkirk thread earlier in the season.

On your comments on the game, can't agree that Mackie was all right (KRH should never be outjumping him for the second goal), think Rowe started off OK but faded and particularly when O'Hara came on and like you I was surprised Henderson didn't start. Max was fine if unspectacular in the first half but was pretty anonymous in the second.

[Bairns1994]

14 minutes ago, ShaggerG said:

I haven't read any of the thread since before the game started as I can't be arsed reading the inevitable vitriol.

The better team won the game and the best team is going to win the league. McPake will know that nothing fancy is required now and Dunfermline will do what they've done all season and win it in a canter.

As far as we are concerned, we were absolutely shite last night. Once again we've choked in a big game and essentially made things easy for Dunfermline. I think the keeper did ok, Mackie was all right, Rowe was ok when anyone bothered to give him the ball and Henderson and Burrell weren't completely disastrous when they came on. The rest were minging. I expressed my concerns on young Max being a starter given the occasion, crowd and the fact that he'd be up against better players and it seems I was right. The man who really got on my tits though was Donaldson. It may be he's playing as he does on the manager's instruction, but he looks like he's out for a gentle stroll rather than playing football. He has always been one that slows the play but this seems to becoming a notable feature. He consistently ignored Rowe in acres of space when an attack was on and either turned and gave it to Mackie or straight to the opposition. He's a good player and should be comfortable at this level but I think he's slowly turning in to a liability.

 

 

 

Totally agree with you on Donaldson last night. 

I just felt there was a lack of urgency from him when he was in possession and we could've had the ball being distributed a lot quicker onto the wings or into space, but he just slowed it down far too much. There were times when Wighton or another Dunfermline attacker would press him while in possession, and instead of using the keeper or other options, he'd safely stick the ball out for a shy. He was too cautious.

He's been brilliant for us this season but, like others, didn't deserve pass marks last night from me.

 

[ShaggerG]

22 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said:

The thread has actually been reasonably restrained tbf, I'm planning in taking as much credit as possible for extending an ilive branch on the Falkirk thread earlier in the season.

On your comments on the game, can't agree that Mackie was all right (KRH should never be outjumping him for the second goal), think Rowe started off OK but faded and particularly when O'Hara came on and like you I was surprised Henderson didn't start. Max was fine if unspectacular in the first half but was pretty anonymous in the second.

I've just watched the highlights and, due to him being out-jumped by that wee guy at the second goal, I take back everything I said about Mackie.

Henderson had to go off at half time on Saturday as he was unwell so I assume that's why he didn't start.

[HoBNob]

21 minutes ago, CallumPar said:

Just behind Benedictus then?

I liked Donaldson when he was with us. He did well, albeit in a dreadful team. I was jealous when he signed for you guys. But he’s prone to a stinker - as he had last night. Been decent the other 2 times we’ve played you though. Very good defender at this level. Not sure I’d have Donaldson ahead of Breen or Benedictus, but he’s definitely one of the best defenders at this level.

Aye, I liked Donaldson allot as a player and come the end of the season he was one of the few who could hold his head high, I was pretty gutted when he went to Falkirk. He didn't play well last night but if I was making up a team of the season I'd absolutely have him in it. 

[Fallen Angel]

36 minutes ago, SouthStander1876 said:

He's been brilliant actually. Confidently top 2 in the league

Nah mate, He's definitely behind Bene and Breen  

[SouthStander1876]

1 minute ago, Fallen Angel said:

Nah mate, He's definitely behind Bene and Breen  

Sound

[Salvo Montalbano]

12 minutes ago, Grant228 said:

Aye, I liked Donaldson allot as a player and come the end of the season he was one of the few who could hold his head high, I was pretty gutted when he went to Falkirk. He didn't play well last night but if I was making up a team of the season I'd absolutely have him in it. 

That would be an interest thread elsewhere (and I daresay there will be one nearer the time). Think there would be a few Pars players who would be shoo-ins but I can't say there have been too many other stand out performers in the division. Ruari Paton maybe for his goals?

[SouthStander1876]

11 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said:

That would be an interest thread elsewhere (and I daresay there will be one nearer the time). Think there would be a few Pars players who would be shoo-ins but I can't say there have been too many other stand out performers in the division. Ruari Paton maybe for his goals?

Donaldson, Benedictus, Mehmet, Morrison, Paton, Matty Todd, Mccann/Edwards all in for me

[HoBNob]

4 minutes ago, Salvo Montalbano said:

That would be an interest thread elsewhere (and I daresay there will be one nearer the time). Think there would be a few Pars players who would be shoo-ins but I can't say there have been too many other stand out performers in the division. Ruari Paton maybe for his goals?

In my head I've got Dunfermline making up the bulk of the defence. 

Mehmet

Comrie- Bene-Donaldson-Edwards 

I'd argue that should be set imo! 

When you get to midfield and attack though it's harder. I see what you're saying about Paton, however looking at the BBC it has Gallagher with the same amount but with a better MPG, Robertson is a goal back however has the best MPG in the division... 

All that said I'd go for. 

Morrison-Todd-Frizzell-Nesbitt

Gallagher - Paton

I'd argue that Morrison and Todd should be set in stone, and while I've put Nesbitt out wide when he seems to have played central this season, his assist tally is such that you can't leave him out. Frizzell is there because of how well Airdrie have played against us, wouldn't surprise me if other people have another player. 

[SouthStander1876]

Just now, Grant228 said:

In my head I've got Dunfermline making up the bulk of the defence. 

Mehmet

Comrie- Bene-Donaldson-Edwards 

I'd argue that should be set imo! 

When you get to midfield and attack though it's harder. I see what you're saying about Paton, however looking at the BBC it has Gallagher with the same amount but with a better MPG, Robertson is a goal back however has the best MPG in the division... 

All that said I'd go for. 

Morrison-Todd-Frizzell-Nesbitt

Gallagher - Paton

I'd argue that Morrison and Todd should be set in stone, and while I've put Nesbitt out wide when he seems to have played central this season, his assist tally is such that you can't leave him out. Frizzell is there because of how well Airdrie have played against us, wouldn't surprise me if other people have another player. 

Can't have 2 Airdrie in if they finish outwith top 4. Got to be an Edinburgh player somewhere I'd imagine. Potentially Craigen right back?

[CallumPar]

8 minutes ago, SouthStander1876 said:

Donaldson, Benedictus, Mehmet, Morrison, Paton, Matty Todd, Mccann/Edwards all in for me

This made me laugh for 2 reasons.

1. You didn’t know who Matty Todd was last week. But he 100% belongs in a team of the year. That performance last night was very typical of the season he’s having.

2. Took me a while to realise you didn’t mean Lewis McCann and I was about to question that inclusion!

Not arguing with any of your selections. I’d put Edwards ahead of McCann myself. But I’ve seen Edwards most weeks and not seen much of McCann. Think Morrison’s a very good player though and he seems to have contributed a lot for Falkirk this season.

If I had to pick opposition players, based on what I’ve seen, it would be nothing like what the actual team of the year looks like. The teams 2nd-4th have a total of 1 goal and 1 point combined from their 9 games against us.

In comparison, Clyde have 3 goals (and 2 points) us and Peterhead have 2 goals (and 1 point). Airdrie scored 5 of the 16 we’ve conceded, so I’d have to put in quite a few of their players.

[SouthStander1876]

Good job it won't be based on what you've seen then eh

[Mybitchunderprotest]

7 minutes ago, CallumPar said:

This made me laugh for 2 reasons.

1. You didn’t know who Matty Todd was last week. But he 100% belongs in a team of the year. That performance last night was very typical of the season he’s having.

2. Took me a while to realise you didn’t mean Lewis McCann and I was about to question that inclusion!

Not arguing with any of your selections. I’d put Edwards ahead of McCann myself. But I’ve seen Edwards most weeks and not seen much of McCann. Think Morrison’s a very good player though and he seems to have contributed a lot for Falkirk this season.

If I had to pick opposition players, based on what I’ve seen, it would be nothing like what the actual team of the year looks like. The teams 2nd-4th have a total of 1 goal and 1 point combined from their 9 games against us.

In comparison, Clyde have 3 goals (and 2 points) us and Peterhead have 2 goals (and 1 point). Airdrie scored 5 of the 16 we’ve conceded, so I’d have to put in quite a few of their players.

Absolutely, Edwards is twice the player that McCann is. Having seen both playing for my team and then having been in opposition teams over the past seasons there is no comparison to be made other than them playing on the same side of the pitch.

[SouthStander1876]

12 minutes ago, CallumPar said:

This made me laugh for 2 reasons.

1. You didn’t know who Matty Todd was last week. 

Going based off of your fans raving about him, much like how you've got Donaldson in yours.

[The Toun Clock]

Delighted with our second half last night. First half I thought Falkirk looked neater and tidier for large spells although not quite as in control as the game in September. Falkirk could have been 2 or 3 up at HT in that game. Falkirk's second half last night was worse than their performance in November, they looked rattled as soon as the second half started and I think we sensed that and took control.

Our subs were huge. Credit to McPake, when I seen O'Hara was coming on I was genuinely a bit surprised given it was so soon after HT but he ran his socks off and kept the full back occupied meaning he wasn't able to get up and support as much. McCann is a bit nuisance, if he could just get a bit more composed in front of goal he'd be a right handful, he does well in the air but with the ball at his feet I think he panics a little. Also being able to bring someone on like Paul McGowan with 10 to go, so much experience, clever play etc it really is handy.

King Richie-Hosler was brilliant, he must be about 5,7, built like the gable end of a fiver but it mattered not a jot, the boy Mackie should be mortified watching that back today. Deniz had nothing to do but still dealt with anything like crosses etc, Bene looking like the player from earlier in the season and big Rhys was solid last night. Edwards definitely not his usual self in terms of getting up and down, think he was still struggling from whatever kept him out on Saturday and McDonald was a bit suspect in the first 45 but just like the team was much better in the second and linking up with KRH. Mochrie was quiet although almost produced that moment of brilliance on HT. Hamilton, a nuisance but a bloody good footballer, thought Chalmers strolled it, one of his best games, Wighton absolutely fine, still think he struggles to play as the lone striker but technically he's one of the best footballers at the club.

Special mentions to Matty Todd of-course. Honestly, someone go to the humble pie factory and get me a years supply. I said on the WDTHR thread before the season started that we'd win nothing with a midfield of Chalmers, Todd & Allan. Now I wasn't saying he wasn't a good player, just that I couldn't see him bossing the midfield this season, by Christ was I wrong! He's non-stop, left foot, right foot, head, chest, can score from anywhere, he's went from being a kid who came through the youth academy to being one of the first names on the team sheet.

Well done to both sets of fans turning up in their thousands. Obviously some daft things like the throwing of paper on the pitch and pyro, was definitely an object handed to the police from the ref in the second half and I did see a young guy getting huckled from Section NW and taken out past the Norrie.

Puts us in a really handy position but not over yet. However, I think we'll take enormous confidence from last night into the rest of the season, we've been professional from the start of the season and just need to do it over the next 9 weeks. Interesting to see how Falkirk bounce back on Monday.

Edited March 8, 2023 by The Toun Clock

[SouthStander1876]

Don't see a problem with the pyros unless they're being thrown on the pitch to be honest.