St Mirren against Motherwell

[Pepper]

The goal comes from Sean Goss taking his turn to switch off completely and let his man run off him. Shocker eh.

That allows St Mirren to play the ball around McGinn and the always lightening quick Ricki "Competition Winner" Lamie doesn't bother trying to cover the near post. 

Curtis Main (renowned for his stealth) somehow manages to elude Blaney to nip in ahead of Kelly, who if he tries to anticipate the touch looks like idiot, so I'm not sure how he manages to take the blame for this one.

The confidence levels in the squad must be horrendous just now - we are being punished for almost every mistake we make and given we canny score in a barrel of fannies it's not looking too good!

 

[Billy Jean King]

10 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said:

Infuriating is the word. Have no problem with Saints doing it, you're a goal up, it's on us to force the issue and we remain a plodding, sluggish Saturday afternoon stroll. 

The difference from you guys to the 2V2 game last season was night and day.  That night it was the Alamo, kitchen sink stuff for the 10-15m before you eventually equalised. Yesterday up went 6m added and we comfortably played that out bar that one break which lead to a chance. The final 10-15 in general was pretty relaxed. 

[ropy]

41 minutes ago, thisGRAEME said:

Not a gripe at all, but yesterday did feel like the least I've seen a ball in play for a game in a while. Tonnes of just standing about waiting for something to happen from both sides. Long throws, free kicks, goal kicks, just watching nothing happen.

 

I liked the fact that Gogic was able to take every throw in level with the 18 yard line regardless of where the ball went out.

[Dirty Sanchez]

4 minutes ago, ropy said:

I liked the fact that Gogic was able to take every throw in level with the 18 yard line regardless of where the ball went out.

That would be on the linesman then, because on the Main Stand side I sat a few yards away from Gogic watching him consult the linesman about where he should be for every one of those that he took.

[Stu]

1 hour ago, thisGRAEME said:

Not a gripe at all, but yesterday did feel like the least I've seen a ball in play for a game in a while. Tonnes of just standing about waiting for something to happen from both sides. Long throws, free kicks, goal kicks, just watching nothing happen.

 

Oh it was a dire game of football, and seemingly our one the week before against Dundee was even worse.

When we were 1-0 up against Hearts a few weeks ago, I was fairly certain there'd be a reaction from them in the second half and we'd be made to pay for missing our chances. Yesterday - putting aside the natural pessimism that comes with being a St Mirren fan - I was fairly sure Motherwell would continue being rubbish and that proved to be the case.

On the basis of yesterday I wouldn't take any of your players in our team and even on the basis of the season as a whole I'd probably only take van Veen and maybe Kelly if we needed a goalie (McKinstry seems handy but he's on loan). The lack of fight is incredibly worrying and can't see much happening in the final few days of the window to change that.

[pozbaird]

34 minutes ago, Dirty Sanchez said:

That would be on the linesman then, because on the Main Stand side I sat a few yards away from Gogic watching him consult the linesman about where he should be for every one of those that he took.

The West Bank linesman was a brammer. Slipped and went arse over elbow right in front of us during the pre-match warm up, never changed his studs and went arse over elbow during the game too. On several occasions, stood looking at Beaton to make decisions for him, and right in front of us, the ball went at least two feet out of play as a St Mirren and Motherwell player fought for the ball. I have no idea who should have been awarded the throw in, but by Christ, it was a throw in to someone. Chunt just let play go on. Surprised he never went arse over elbow a third time.

[Stu]

Were Gogic's throw-ins actually that long or do we just give the perception they are going to be by making such a big fuss of getting him to take them and loading the box with players, thus causing concern among the opposition defence?

Can't remember us having someone with a long throw before yet now we have Gallagher, Shaughnessy and Gogic.

[Al B]

37 minutes ago, Stu said:

I wouldn't take any of your players in our team

I mean, we dont want any of them in our team either so that's hardly surprising.

[flyingscot]

1 hour ago, ropy said:

I liked the fact that Gogic was able to take every throw in level with the 18 yard line regardless of where the ball went out.

It was peak yard stealing on throw ins for both teams. Motherwell had one in the corner flag which was impressively taken at the 18 yard line! Beaton only stopped the one that Motherwell tried on a break, so was some effort for both teams getting away with it.  

3 minutes ago, Stu said:

Were Gogic's throw-ins actually that long or do we just give the perception they are going to be by making such a big fuss of getting him to take them and loading the box with players, thus causing concern among the opposition defence?

Can't remember us having someone with a long throw before yet now we have Gallagher, Shaughnessy and Gogic.

I think our throw ins are shite. I guess it’s a bit of a 3-5-2 issue, as we often seem well marked and if we bring over players we’re then exposed if it breaks other opposition way. I guess chucking it long forces the opposition into the box and with VAR anything can happen (penalty Rangers).

[Billy Jean King]

10 minutes ago, Stu said:

Were Gogic's throw-ins actually that long or do we just give the perception they are going to be by making such a big fuss of getting him to take them and loading the box with players, thus causing concern among the opposition defence?

Can't remember us having someone with a long throw before yet now we have Gallagher, Shaughnessy and Gogic.

It's back "in vogue" basically. Just heard the commentators on the Brighton v Liverpool game mention ahead of a Liverpool long throw that Klopp had brought in specialist coaches for sessions on using and defending long throws. Saw a fair bit of it in the WC too. Perhaps we made it trendy again 

[thisGRAEME]

30 minutes ago, Stu said:

Were Gogic's throw-ins actually that long or do we just give the perception they are going to be by making such a big fuss of getting him to take them and loading the box with players, thus causing concern among the opposition defence?

They're not! We did this loads last season too with O'Donnell and it drove me absolutely berserk at points. It's not so much the rigmarole of doing it, it's that it's almost carved into stone that every one has to do that, despite, y'know, football being a broadly dynamic sport where variety and quick thinking and decision making is actually a real necessity.

That said, we're still lofting every free kick to the back corner of the 18 yard box for Lamie to (attempt to) knock down to a striker despite it having worked about once in 18 months so maybe everyone is guilty of this, or we especially are.

[NathanDrake88]

Got to be between Motherwell and killie for the drop, with hopefully Aberdeen dragged into it. 3 honking teams 

[Stu]

47 minutes ago, flyingscot said:

It was peak yard stealing on throw ins for both teams. Motherwell had one in the corner flag which was impressively taken at the 18 yard line! Beaton only stopped the one that Motherwell tried on a break, so was some effort for both teams getting away with it.  

I think our throw ins are shite. I guess it’s a bit of a 3-5-2 issue, as we often seem well marked and if we bring over players we’re then exposed if it breaks other opposition way. I guess chucking it long forces the opposition into the box and with VAR anything can happen (penalty Rangers).

They maybe weren't great yesterday but our throw-ins led to goals against Rangers and Celtic and there was another game (possibly against Livvy) where faking a long throw also got us a goal. Not sure how many goals we've got from corners this season but doubt it's as many as that.

45 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said:

It's back "in vogue" basically. Just heard the commentators on the Brighton v Liverpool game mention ahead of a Liverpool long throw that Klopp had brought in specialist coaches for sessions on using and defending long throws. Saw a fair bit of it in the WC too. Perhaps we made it trendy again 

Liverpool brought in a throw-in coach a few years ago. Rory Delap lost his coaching job recently, bring him in!

[Torfason]

29 minutes ago, NathanDrake88 said:

Got to be between Motherwell and killie for the drop, with hopefully Aberdeen dragged into it. 3 honking teams 

Really hope it’s Killie, in addition to being Sevco-lite their fans are entitled roasters.

[Al B]

I am very much enjoying the thinly veiled "Motherwell are shite" posts from the St Mirren fans that would normally cause fans of other clubs to bite back, and all of us just going "yeah "

[NathanDrake88]

6 minutes ago, Al B said:

I am very much enjoying the thinly veiled "Motherwell are shite" posts from the St Mirren fans that would normally cause fans of other clubs to bite back, and all of us just going "yeah "

Boooo. Much more fun if you bite 

[djchapsticks]

I genuinely hope Motherwell stay up (even if they are long overdue an emptying) as I actually don't mind them. There's no team in the top flight aside from ourselves that I like or have much time for but if I had to pick one if pressed, I'd say Motherwell are the least worst option followed by Hibs.

[pozbaird]

24 minutes ago, djchapsticks said:

I genuinely hope Motherwell stay up (even if they are long overdue an emptying) as I actually don't mind them. There's no team in the top flight aside from ourselves that I like or have much time for but if I had to pick one if pressed, I'd say Motherwell are the least worst option followed by Hibs.

I don’t have a problem with anyone, bar two. Hearts can be borderline cuntos from time to time, but at other times, they are our Scottish Cup and League Cup bitches, and our mere presence ignites memories of ‘86 amongst their more rabid, ageing fannies, so fair enough.

Unlikely as it looks, and grudging respect to them, wish Livingston would just get to fcuk. They don’t look like going anywhere though. As I say, grudging respect to that huge unflushable jobbie of a football team.

[Desp]

Haven't read through the thread but we happily let Carson, Dunne, O'Hara & Main walk out the Fir Park door. Every single one of them would waltz into our first XI right now. 

I don't actually fear relegation (it's been 38 years so has to happen eventually). It's the going down without a fight that'll piss me off more. 

[NorthBank]

The worst team I have seen this season is Killie. They played 88mins against us when we had 10 men (ref gave 6 mins extra time) and they were terrible. Square balls all over the park with absolutely no threat. Think Carson had one save to make. Their subs made their team worse if anything.

'Well will be ok.

Edited January 29, 2023 by NorthBank