Leith Green Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 8 hours ago, sophia said: the wee soviet 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, Trogdor said: I'll put you down as a potential heads gone. I'll wear that as a badge of honour. I'll put you the bigot category. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Highlandmagar said: I'll put you the bigot category. I preferred you when you had tier 3 in your name. You weren't so serious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Trogdor said: I preferred you when you had tier 3 in your name. You weren't so serious. Thing is, with Thistle whirling about the leagues I lose track of which one we are in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 11 hours ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: If Humza wins, Scotland loses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 I just hope whoever wins isn't around for long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, itzdrk said: I just hope whoever wins isn't around for long. It’s Hobson’s choice. Each of the candidates is so fundamentally flawed that the SNP loses whoever wins. Just a terrible final three. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razamanaz Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 9 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: It’s Hobson’s choice. Each of the candidates is so fundamentally flawed that the SNP loses whoever wins. Just a terrible final three. But Nicola said there was a wealth of talent there - was Nicola a liar? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Benjamin_Nevis said: The simpler explanation is that she's probably had enough of holding together an electorally dominant party of some wildly different factions. Along those lines, Forbes is as much Sturgeon's protégé as Yousaf is. It was Sturgeon who facilitated Forbes' rise, ultimately appointing her to finance minister. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: It’s Hobson’s choice. Each of the candidates is so fundamentally flawed that the SNP loses whoever wins. Just a terrible final three. It is. Least worst is Yousaf but he's hardly anything to write home about. Interesting facts here though. Forbes clearly doesn't have the support of her elected colleagues. If she wins, it will be the old conservatives in the wider membership - that have voted her in. Edited March 27, 2023 by Crùbag 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, razamanaz said: But Nicola said there was a wealth of talent there - was Nicola a liar? Compared to the other parties, it probably is a 'wealth'. I can't think of any other MSP that does inspire confifence - Swinney and Robertson though obvs not standing for different reasons. Maybe Monica Lennon in Labour. Maybe some of the Greens. The Lib Dems and Tories are all freaks and weirdos. The SNP's big hitters are all in Westminster. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 13 minutes ago, Crùbag said: Compared to the other parties, it probably is a 'wealth'. I can't think of any other MSP that does inspire confifence - Swinney and Robertson though obvs not standing for different reasons. Maybe Monica Lennon in Labour. Maybe some of the Greens. The Lib Dems and Tories are all freaks and weirdos. The SNP's big hitters are all in Westminster. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Marlo Stanfield said: What a fucking shit show this country is. The country that invented modern medicine, the steam engine, tv and telephone etc and these three gimps are all we can come up with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Crùbag said: It is. Least worst is Yousaf but he's hardly anything to write home about. Interesting facts here though. Forbes clearly doesn't have the support of her elected colleagues. If she wins, it will be the old conservatives in the wider membership - that have voted her in. I always think having the support of the MSPs/MPs is overblown. Unless they are going to openly revolt its pretty much irrelevant if they file in behind you. In the event of Forbes win (I still consider it unlikely) then Humza will swear fealty (for some plum job) and encourage his supporters to do likewise. The 34 (None Yet/None) will swing behind Forbes as they are all career politicians (You again - Wishart!). There will be some elected members who will either want a meeting with Forbes to speak to her directly about trans rights, equal marraige etc. and there will be party members who leave as its all too much for them. I doubt we'll see any MSPs or MPs leave. Least of all having watched what has happened to the Alba das. Its a brave person to step out the tent. There may even be a scenario where the Alba das return (for better or worse!). Edited March 27, 2023 by Trogdor 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 25 minutes ago, Crùbag said: It is. Least worst is Yousaf but he's hardly anything to write home about. Interesting facts here though. Forbes clearly doesn't have the support of her elected colleagues. If she wins, it will be the old conservatives in the wider membership - that have voted her in. I wouldn’t put it past Forbes to have voted for Regan. That’d pretty much sum up this shitshow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, FreedomFarter said: Along those lines, Forbes is as much Sturgeon's protégé as Yousaf is. It was Sturgeon who facilitated Forbes' rise, ultimately appointing her to finance minister. Not really. After the previous incumbent was outed as a pederast and with about 3 hours notice, Forbes was identified as about the only SNP MSP with any real world experience in finance. I think it was as much a case of ‘you’ll do’ rather than any sort of wilful grooming for future leadership. And her immediate stance on anything to do with HR’s governance seems noticeably at odds with Sturgeons position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, George Cowley said: Not really. After the previous incumbent was outed as a pederast and with about 3 hours notice, Forbes was identified as about the only SNP MSP with any real world experience in finance. I think it was as much a case of ‘you’ll do’ rather than any sort of wilful grooming for future leadership. And her immediate stance on anything to do with HR’s governance seems noticeably at odds with Sturgeons position. I don't disagree on the broad point that Forbes isn't Sturgeon's protégé. That's been quite apparent in this contest. Humza has been right next to NS ever since he announced his candidacy. Wrt. Forbes stepping into the Finance Secretary role. Could they not just have parachuted Swinney back in at the time? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 If Forbes did get it, it would be interesting to see what brief she offered Yousaf, especially after essentially branding him as incompetent in every role he has held in Government to date. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, DrewDon said: If Forbes did get it, it would be interesting to see what brief she offered Yousaf, especially after essentially branding him as incompetent in every role he has held in Government to date. He could hand out the pens and the bits of paper at the cabinet meetings. Wouldn't be too hard to swap a pen for a bit of paper with your neighbour, should a mistake have occurred. Handing out the agendas would be done at the door. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said: He could hand out the pens and the bits of paper at the cabinet meetings. Wouldn't be too hard to swap a pen for a bit of paper with your neighbour, should a mistake have occurred. Handing out the agendas would be done at the door. I think that's Deputy First Minister and Minister without portfolio. Makes him sound important but he can't do any damage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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