Cheese Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I don't think there's anyone either in the race or out that's capable of holding together the fracturing coalition the way Salmond and Sturgeon did. A realignment and electoral decline is in the post. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 34 minutes ago, Bodie said: I don't think there's anyone either in the race or out that's capable of holding together the fracturing coalition the way Salmond and Sturgeon did. A realignment and electoral decline is in the post. I dont think it's necessarily an even sided split. Clearly there is a bigger rump of voters on one side of the possible divide than the other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, renton said: I dont think it's necessarily an even sided split. Clearly there is a bigger rump of voters on one side of the possible divide than the other. Yeah probably, but the fault lines run across multiple issues, social policy, economic policy, independence strategy, good governance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Hitler Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Why are folk wittering on about "a future referendum" here? We are committed to only ever holding one with permission from Westminster, and we will never be given such permission ever again. There will never be another referendum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 hours ago, renton said: I dont think it's necessarily an even sided split. Clearly there is a bigger rump of voters on one side of the possible divide than the other. Probably. And mostly on the Forbes side than that of the Humzanistas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Nationalist Scotland is imploding but no worries. Bagpiping whilst Embra burns? Not a problem. Chris Law is yer man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I'd agree that Sturgeon has broader appeal than Salmond but I think all VT was saying is that Salmond was the leader who made the first massive electoral inroad into the traditional Labour central belt areas, which he clearly was. Clearly, it's much more difficult to make any kind of comparable inroad again because the lowest hanging fruit has been taken and you'd be looking at winning 70%+ of the vote, which isn't happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) Watching a bit of the Edinburgh hustings on rewind, find it annoying anyone having to tell me they're passionate about independence, should be taken for granted for a prospective candidate. Also the chapping on doors and looking at the whites of voters eyes bit is a tad disturbing. Just Humza so far. Edited March 10, 2023 by welshbairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Watching a bit of the Edinburgh hustings on rewind, find it annoying anyone having to tell me they're passionate about something, should be taken for granted for a prospective candidate. Also the chapping on doors and looking at the whites of voters eyes bit is a tad disturbing. Just Humza so far. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 30 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Watching a bit of the Edinburgh hustings on rewind, find it annoying anyone having to tell me they're passionate about independence, should be taken for granted for a prospective candidate. Also the chapping on doors and looking at the whites of voters eyes bit is a tad disturbing. Just Humza so far. Welshie, I'm worried about you. I hope you have a good support network of family and friends. Watching those hustings isn't good for mental health. They should come with a warning. As an aside, looking forward to Monday? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 43 minutes ago, Trogdor said: Welshie, I'm worried about you. I hope you have a good support network of family and friends. Watching those hustings isn't good for mental health. They should come with a warning. As an aside, looking forward to Monday? As a party member I take my duty very strongly to give each candidate every opportunity to convince me, on behalf of all you lapsed dues payers. I won't be voting until the morning of March 27th. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Another televised debate on Sky Monday with Beth Rigby. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I heard Flynn on the radio backing Humza, seems a bit late in the game. Could it be linked to the polling of SNP members that had Humza and Forbes equal? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 2 hours ago, ScotiaNostra said: I heard Flynn on the radio backing Humza, seems a bit late in the game. Could it be linked to the polling of SNP members that had Humza and Forbes equal? Of course it is but the strategists would be well served in taking into account the lurch to thrawn that is possible when being overly preached to. This applies especially to Mhairi Black and her studenty threats. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Swinney backing Humza as well now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Not sure if this has been posted before but I hadn’t seen it. SNP leadership contender Kate Forbes’ husband attended private Tory hustings https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-leadership-contender-kate-forbes-29359739 Forbes’ campaign said he was a non-member “guest” but a Scottish Tories spokesperson said only party members were allowed to attend. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Not sure if this has been posted before but I hadn’t seen it. SNP leadership contender Kate Forbes’ husband attended private Tory hustings https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/politics/snp-leadership-contender-kate-forbes-29359739 Forbes’ campaign said he was a non-member “guest” but a Scottish Tories spokesperson said only party members were allowed to attend. I'm surprised you didn't notice the debate that this prompted and unless I'm mistaken, there was unanimous agreement that in all cases in Scotland in 2023, husbands should provide political leadership in the household context and fellow dwellers, who should be regarded as subordinate, shall support him. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Ash Regan's on Sky News around 9.20, Sophie Ridge on Sunday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, sophia said: I'm surprised you didn't notice the debate that this prompted and unless I'm mistaken, there was unanimous agreement that in all cases in Scotland in 2023, husbands should provide political leadership in the household context and fellow dwellers, who should be regarded as subordinate, shall support him. The danger here is that if Kate decides that Ephesians 5:22 (amongst others) is one of the bits of the Bible she is arsed about following, then she’ll vote in line with her faith. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salt n Vinegar Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 24 minutes ago, carpetmonster said: The danger here is that if Kate decides that Ephesians 5:22 (amongst others) is one of the bits of the Bible she is arsed about following, then she’ll vote in line with her faith. I had to check that Ephesians is in the New Testament. One would have imagined that such nonsense would be in the "angry God" bit of the scriptures, but no, NT it is. Presumably it gives Christians another opportunity to exercise the great 'get out of jail free card' of the good old pick n mix approach to faith. I'm not generally in favour of violence, but any bloke who thinks he gets to tell his wife or daughters how to vote deserves a smack in the mouth. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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