Trogdor Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 What are the likely sentences for an owner if their out of control dog bites someone or worse yet kills someone? It is the owners that are predominantly the issue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 To be on the safe side all dogs must die 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 12 minutes ago, Trogdor said: What are the likely sentences for an owner if their out of control dog bites someone or worse yet kills someone? It is the owners that are predominantly the issue. Maximum sentence will be 6 months jail time and/or an unlimited fine. Obviously, that will only be intended to be applied in the very worst cases. It's still bad law though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 23 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Breed specific legislation to deal with dangerous dogs is ultimately flawed - breed is not a reliable predictor of aggressive behaviour in dogs. Any dog has the potential to bite. Between 1989 and 2017 48 people died in dog-related incidents. Of the 62 dogs involved, 53 were dog breeds not on the prohibited list. Between 2017 and 2021 there was a huge jump in deaths - another 21 in that 4 year period. A further 10 people died in 2022. The biggest explanation of the rise in dog-related death incidents is not an increase in the number of XL Bullies (or any other dog type for that matter). The dog population has increased, but not enough to account for that huge jump - which means dogs are biting humans more than they used to. It's adults in particular where the change is seen. The shared common feature of dog-related deaths is that they are in areas with high levels of social deprivation - statistically the NW and NE of England have much higher rates of dog-related attacks and deaths than London and the SE. Lockdown almost certainly changed the relationship between dogs and their owner. With people at home more - even after lockdown ended - a dog might have lost the safe space it retreated to when stressed, potentially leading to more frustration and anxiety. Opportunities for socialising dogs were also lost. The focus should be more effective legislation and enforcement to tackle dog-related issues regardless of breed or type and based on their behaviour; Interventions including education that focus on safe behaviour around dogs; and an overall better understanding of why dogs bite. The issue isn't bad dog breeds, it's bad dog owners. -3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Of all the things you could level at the current Scottish government, not banning a specific breed of dog is pretty low down the list imo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted January 4 Share Posted January 4 It probably shouldn’t be surprising how one’s progressive principles might wane when running out of money….. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/01/04/humza-yousaf-woos-bus-tycoon-as-snp-donations-dry-up/ Quote Humza Yousaf woos bus tycoon as SNP donations dry up The first minister has been courting Sir Brian Souter as donations to the party plummeted following a police investigation into its finances Simon Johnson, Scottish Political Editor4 January 2024 • 7:16pm Humza Yousaf has been trying to woo bus tycoon Sir Brian Souter after donations to the SNP dried up in the wake of the police investigation into the party’s finances. Sir Brian, co-founder of the Stagecoach transport empire, handed more than £2.5 million to the party when Alex Salmond was first minister between 2007 and 2014. His donations halted when Nicola Sturgeon replaced Mr Salmond but documents released under the Freedom of Information Act show he was being courted by Mr Yousaf. The papers, published by the Politico website, showed Mr Yousaf enlisted Sir Brian to help organise a dinner to repair relations with the business community, which became frayed during the Sturgeon years. Sir Brian, co-founder of the Stagecoach transport empire, handed more than £2.5 million to the party when Alex Salmond was first minister between 2007 and 2014 Credit: ANDREW MILLIGAN/PA The tycoon agreed to help “nudge” other business figures to attend after an exchange of emails between an aide and Colin McAllister, Mr Yousaf’s chief of staff. Billed by Mr Yousaf’s team as a “Business Leaders Dinner”, the event eventually went ahead on July 27 last year, at the luxury Prestonfield House hotel in Edinburgh. However, figures published last month showed that private donations to the SNP had continued to dry up under Mr Yousaf’s leadership, with the party attracting less than £10,000 since he came to power. The barren period has coincided with the police investigation into the SNP’s finances. Business leaders also reacted with hostility to last month’s Scottish Budget, which hiked income taxes again and failed to pass on a tax break given to retailers south of the Border. The disclosure that Mr Yousaf has been wooing Sir Brian could also provoke tensions with the SNP’s Scottish Green coalition partners because of his socially conservative views. The Christian businessman is a member of an evangelical church based in the US. The email chain came after Humza Yousaf met Sir Brian at Scotland’s National Prayer Breakfast, an annual religious event organised by the businessmanCredit: CHRIS JACKSON/PA In 2000 he bankrolled a campaign against the then Labour-led administration at Holyrood to remove Thatcher-era legislation that prevented councils from “intentionally promoting” homosexuality in schools. The email chain, dated to June and July 2023, came after Mr Yousaf met Sir Brian at Scotland’s National Prayer Breakfast, an annual religious event the businessman organises. Mr McAllister suggested a list of potential invitees for the dinner to the aide, who replied that “Brian is happy with the proposed list below.” They then discussed an offer by Sir Brian to reach out to some people” regarding the dinner. “I will leave it to you guys to judge who that might be but we would be very grateful if he could nudge people as he feels appropriate,” Mr McAllister said. Government ‘needs to involve’ businesses ‘more effectively’ Mr Yousaf, Neil Gray, the secretary for wellbeing economy, Ellis Watson, the former chief executive of the media group DC Thomson, and Sir Brian were listed as attending. The names of nine other figures were redacted. According to Scottish government minutes, Mr Yousaf told those present that “engagement with business has already highlighted the need to involve business more effectively in policy”. A Scottish government spokesman said: “Ministers routinely engage with a wide range of business leaders as a normal part of government. “Calling upon their expertise is vital to development of policy, understanding business needs and how to effectively grow our economy.” The SNP referred a request for comment to the Scottish government. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Days Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Apparently giving a major speech tomorrow where he is going to announce that if we were independent then each family would be better of by £10k. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 3 hours ago, Crazy Days said: Apparently giving a major speech tomorrow where he is going to announce that if we were independent then each family would be better of by £10k. Even from the SNP that's a quite astonishing claim. Can't wait to hear the working behind that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Todd_is_God said: Even from the SNP that's a quite astonishing claim. Can't wait to hear the working behind that. No need to wait! https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24032169.yousaf-boosting-living-standards-prize-independence/ The First Minister is expected to refer to a recent report by the Resolution Foundation that concluded that if the UK had the average income and inequality of similar countries then the typical household would be £8,300 better off. Mr Yousaf will say: “If we use the same analysis for countries that are similar to Scotland – such as Denmark, Ireland and Finland - the difference for the typical Scottish household would be even greater. They would be £10,200 better off. That is the prize of independence." Here's the link to the Resolution Foundation report https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/press-releases/britain-needs-a-new-economic-strategy-to-end-its-stagnation-and-close-its-8300-living-standards-gap-with-its-peers/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 hours ago, lichtgilphead said: No need to wait! https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/24032169.yousaf-boosting-living-standards-prize-independence/ The First Minister is expected to refer to a recent report by the Resolution Foundation that concluded that if the UK had the average income and inequality of similar countries then the typical household would be £8,300 better off. Mr Yousaf will say: “If we use the same analysis for countries that are similar to Scotland – such as Denmark, Ireland and Finland - the difference for the typical Scottish household would be even greater. They would be £10,200 better off. That is the prize of independence." Here's the link to the Resolution Foundation report https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/press-releases/britain-needs-a-new-economic-strategy-to-end-its-stagnation-and-close-its-8300-living-standards-gap-with-its-peers/ Sounds great, in theory, but theory doesn't deliver results. The SNP are great at headlines but never seem to have a plan to deliver them. That's the working I want to hear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 Is this report and speech going to make a single voter switch from a No to a Yes? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 22 minutes ago, scottsdad said: Is this report and speech going to make a single voter switch from a No to a Yes? No, he's playing to the gallery. That's the problem, if the needle is to be moved those in the middle (undecided and soft nos) need convinced. This won't do that. We're just going through the motions with Humza. One step back to take two steps forward. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyellowbox Posted January 7 Share Posted January 7 2 hours ago, scottsdad said: Is this report and speech going to make a single voter switch from a No to a Yes? To be honest, I don't think there is much the SNP can really say to turn no's to yesses, but there is things they can say to soften some yesses. I think what might shift people to yes is if Labour in UK under Starmer are just another shade of Tory when in power. That and/or there is some serious sucking up to Trump if reelected by a Labour government. Yousaf needs to chose his arguments as while I like a lot of what he has to say, sometimes he can come across shouty and smarmy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O'Kelly Isley III Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 21 hours ago, scottsdad said: Is this report and speech going to make a single voter switch from a No to a Yes? Almost certainly not, but say five or ten years from now when the parcel of UK Governance has passed back from insipid and ineffective Labour to the new common sense Conservative Party with the country further mired in poverty, social unrest and structural inequality, these same voters and the younger cohort who will by that time have joined them may well start to decide that enough is enough. As long as we have Westminster in its current form, there will be a cause around Scottish Independence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 The thinnest-skinned person on the planet is at it again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sophia Posted January 8 Share Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said: The thinnest-skinned person on the planet is at it again. Mhairi Black who is standing down as an MP and her role as deputy leader in Westminster at the upcoming election, might feel she is able to shoot off her mouth with impunity but the kindest thing I could attribute to her in this scenario is that she has been naively indiscrete. I cannot imagine how I would feel having to play for Ross County but I certainly do know that if Don Cowie decried his team in such a fashion he'd have to go some to find the dressing room again. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 An interview with Matt Chorley of the Murdoch-owned Times Radio was certainly a strange platform to choose. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 17 hours ago, sophia said: Mhairi Black who is standing down as an MP and her role as deputy leader in Westminster at the upcoming election, might feel she is able to shoot off her mouth with impunity but the kindest thing I could attribute to her in this scenario is that she has been naively indiscrete. I cannot imagine how I would feel having to play for Ross County but I certainly do know that if Don Cowie decried his team in such a fashion he'd have to go some to find the dressing room again. The same RC whose new manager just did exactly that with the whole league. I suspect Black's comments probably hold a lot of truth. The old adage "if the cap fits" springs to mind when I read Cherry's latest mewlings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted January 9 Share Posted January 9 Meanwhile, the Humza's latest 'priority' for govt: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/01/09/parents-refuse-child-gender-change-jail-snp-conversion-ban/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 In fairness I don’t think that’s Humza. Just a policy consultation that he had to tolerate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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