f_c_dundee Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Sigh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eindhovendee Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 3 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: To no-one's surprise we concede a late penalty - Dochety wants shot for that team today Hopefully a wake up before the main event. We need more players. The result isn't important but it's helped show we are light. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 I wish we would take this cup a bit more seriously tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossBFaeDundee Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 6 minutes ago, johnnydun said: I wish we would take this cup a bit more seriously tbh. It's our first loss in the group stage - first result that wasn't a win too - since Hibs in 2020. I'd wager we usually do, but that team today has me wondering. Imagine bringing Pineda on and 5 mins later he's given the perfect chance to start his stint in Scotland on the front foot, and instead handing the penalty to our worst penalty taker Better to get a warning shot now than in the league, but I have a feeling that's us practically out of this cup already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys McCabe Hype Train Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Class from the Diamonds. Looking forward to a defeat from Inverness and a losing penalty draw with Bonnyrigg to scupper our chances of progressing, though. A wee Cup run would be class. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondman Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 We were fortunate today. That does not mean your Mexican striker is not a haddie though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Get it up you to all Dundee fans. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mybitchunderprotest Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 2 hours ago, eindhovendee said: I have no idea or interest really, hadn't thought about it as we've not played in a while. 2 hours ago, eindhovendee said: Surprising given how much detail they go into. Airdrieonians. Surprisingly the image immediately above referred to Airdrie United but uses the new Airdrieonians crest given the old one fell foul of the Lord Lyon. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 2 hours ago, johnnydun said: I wish we would take this cup a bit more seriously tbh. Why? It's an utterly meaningless diddy cup. The only potentially worthwhile endeavour is the gate receipts from getting pumped by an arse-cheek in the Semi or Final. It's absolutely right that the majority of managers treat it as nothing but a pre-season warm-up, because that's all it deserves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aufc Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 2 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said: Why? It's an utterly meaningless diddy cup. The only potentially worthwhile endeavour is the gate receipts from getting pumped by an arse-cheek in the Semi or Final. It's absolutely right that the majority of managers treat it as nothing but a pre-season warm-up, because that's all it deserves. I’d say it’s more important for teams like us or league 1 teams to try maximise the cash. However, for premier league teams it is basically just pre season. Still doesn’t take away the fact we beat yoi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 Just now, Aufc said: I’d say it’s more important for teams like us or league 1 teams to try maximise the cash. However, for premier league teams it is basically just pre season. Still doesn’t take away the fact we beat yoi Of course it is. Everything is relative. If you have a tiny budget then any sort of reasonable sized one-off gate receipt is going to be of much more significance than it would be to a bigger club with a bigger budget, but the League Cup lost what little prestige it had as soon as it lost the Continental qualifying place, and even the prize money is pitiful, so personally speaking, I couldn't care less about how seriously or otherwise any Dundee manager views it, and if they want to treat it as a fitness and squad rotation exercise ahead of the league season then that's perfectly ok by me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnydun Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 36 minutes ago, Boo Khaki said: Why? It's an utterly meaningless diddy cup. The only potentially worthwhile endeavour is the gate receipts from getting pumped by an arse-cheek in the Semi or Final. It's absolutely right that the majority of managers treat it as nothing but a pre-season warm-up, because that's all it deserves. Not at all, it's one of the 3 major trophies in Scotland and one of the few things us diddy clubs have a slight chance of winning (maybe not so much us, mind you). 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenmavis Diamond Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 4 hours ago, Boo Khaki said: Of course it is. Everything is relative. If you have a tiny budget then any sort of reasonable sized one-off gate receipt is going to be of much more significance than it would be to a bigger club with a bigger budget, but the League Cup lost what little prestige it had as soon as it lost the Continental qualifying place, and even the prize money is pitiful, so personally speaking, I couldn't care less about how seriously or otherwise any Dundee manager views it, and if they want to treat it as a fitness and squad rotation exercise ahead of the league season then that's perfectly ok by me. Yes it is all relative. And in the SPL, I'd guess you'll have one of the smallest budgets so you'd think a decent cup run and draw would help with that, and your survival chances as a result. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted July 22, 2023 Share Posted July 22, 2023 25 minutes ago, Glenmavis Diamond said: Yes it is all relative. And in the SPL, I'd guess you'll have one of the smallest budgets so you'd think a decent cup run and draw would help with that, and your survival chances as a result. We're running at a near £1 million loss year on year. One or two decent gates aren't going to bring that back into the black, so the owners will be servicing the debt regardless. If they've decided a set budget for the season and anything earned over and above expectation genuinely goes back into the playing budget pot, then fair enough, but that would be an odd way to run a club that is perpetually operating at a loss anyway. I can see it being an issue from a player's point of view, in that they should be wanting to win every single game and every single competition they can, but as a fan if you offered me a League Cup win every single season for the next ten years or a solid mid-table finish this season coming, I'd take the latter. A League Cup win wouldn't be any more significant to me than a Tennents Sixes or B&Q Cup win, nice to have, but nobody really gives a shit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenmavis Diamond Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Boo Khaki said: We're running at a near £1 million loss year on year. One or two decent gates aren't going to bring that back into the black, so the owners will be servicing the debt regardless. If they've decided a set budget for the season and anything earned over and above expectation genuinely goes back into the playing budget pot, then fair enough, but that would be an odd way to run a club that is perpetually operating at a loss anyway. I can see it being an issue from a player's point of view, in that they should be wanting to win every single game and every single competition they can, but as a fan if you offered me a League Cup win every single season for the next ten years or a solid mid-table finish this season coming, I'd take the latter. A League Cup win wouldn't be any more significant to me than a Tennents Sixes or B&Q Cup win, nice to have, but nobody really gives a shit. So you're saying that if Dundee won the League Cup, none of the fans would really give a shit? Yeah, sure. And as for saying you'd rather a mid table league finish instead, well these things aren't connected and failing at one doesn't guarantee the other, so I can't buy into that type of thinking at all. I'd expect my team to compete in every competition they take part in. Try to breed a winning mentality. Not a chance Dundee fans would be saying it doesn't matter if you'd actually have won the game. Not a chance. Edited July 23, 2023 by Glenmavis Diamond 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifeSons Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Will Dundee be streaming Wednesday's game? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diamonds Are Red Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 10 hours ago, Glenmavis Diamond said: So you're saying that if Dundee won the League Cup, none of the fans would really give a shit? Yeah, sure. And as for saying you'd rather a mid table league finish instead, well these things aren't connected and failing at one doesn't guarantee the other, so I can't buy into that type of thinking at all. I'd expect my team to compete in every competition they take part in. Try to breed a winning mentality. Not a chance Dundee fans would be saying it doesn't matter if you'd actually have won the game. Not a chance. Spot on GD. The old "it means nothing/nobody gives a shit" is invariably trotted out by fans of the bigger clubs when they lose these kind of games. What a pathetic cop out, to the Dundee poster above how about saying "nobody gives a shit" to your fellow 400 odd fans who took the time, effort and money to come down from Tayside to Lanarkshire! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Diamonds Are Red said: Spot on GD. The old "it means nothing/nobody gives a shit" is invariably trotted out by fans of the bigger clubs when they lose these kind of games. It really isn't a loss only opinion. The quicker we are out this 'cup' the better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doogster Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Quite a bit of pish posted on this thread, regrettably from Dees. This is one of the two trophies that we can actually win. To bin it off in a strop after a slightly unfortunate defeat to Airdrie doesn't make much sense to me; we've still got two home games against lower league teams and whilst I was also surprised by Saturday's team sheet, I'm still reasonably/hopefully confident we can still get through to the next stage. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 There's literally nothing to be gained from winning this. The money is about £40 and a curly wurly. There is no gravitas, no reward. Sack it aff, people only care about the Scottish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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