DrewDon Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 I will take October in the Maresca Sacking Month Sweepstake. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 18 hours ago, Miguel Sanchez said: The first Barclays Global Season is going to be the greatest event this planet has ever seen. If the season ticket holders and other regular attendees together with the FA allow that to happen they deserve everything they get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: If the season ticket holders and other regular attendees together with the FA allow that to happen they deserve everything they get. What power do the season ticket holders and other regular attendees have to stop it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 2 hours ago, JS_FFC said: What power do the season ticket holders and other regular attendees have to stop it? Let’s see if you can work that one out for yourself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 2 hours ago, JS_FFC said: What power do the season ticket holders and other regular attendees have to stop it? More than none but not as much as they’d like to think American Sports team owners will regularly move an entire franchise halfway across the continent for commercial reasons despite the unpopularity of that with season ticket holders and regular attendees so they’re unlikely to be deterred by Chelsea supporters from staging games in Vegas 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Let’s see if you can work that one out for yourself. The closest to home example of fan power in action was the fan backlash when oldco Rangers went into liquidation in 2012. Many Scottish football clubs were ready to vote them back into the (then) SPL or at very least to the (then) first division and only club chairmen being inundated with emails from match going fans ultimately led to them being banished down to the bottom of the professional leagues. In the English Premier League, this fan power DOES. NOT. EXIST. In order to properly understand this, consider the following facts: 1) Match day revenue is a much, much lower percentage of overall revenue for your Man Utds and Liverpools of the world than it is for your Motherwells and your Alloas. TV money and other commercial interests are such that even a widespread boycott from match going fans would make very little difference to the bottom line. 2) These massive English clubs have season ticket waiting lists well over a decade long. Even if some fans wanted to resign their tickets in protest at losing a home game to be played overseas, the club can replace them in an instant. If the Premier League and club owners decide that a small number of games each season are going abroad, the fans are completely powerless to stop that. Edited July 28 by JS_FFC 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Presumably there are still people not getting what the point of these hedge fund types getting their claws into these clubs in the first place was? They will happily leave scorched earth behind once they have milked every pound they can. These types rank only behind human being themselves as the greatest parasitic force in the known Universe. I'm sooooo here for it though. All of it. Can't wait till the Barclays story reaches its utterly obvious and foregone conclusion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 2 minutes ago, JS_FFC said: The closest to home example of fan power in action was the fan backlash when oldco Rangers went into liquidation in 2012. Many Scottish football clubs were ready to vote them back into the (then) SPL or at very least to the (then) first division and only club chairmen being inundated with emails from match going fans ultimately led to them being banished down to the bottom of the professional leagues. In the English Premier League, this fan power DOES. NOT. EXIST. In order to properly understand this, consider the following facts: 1) Match day revenue is a much, much lower percentage of overall revenue for your Man Utds and Liverpools of the world than it is for your Motherwells and your Alloas. TV money and other commercial interests are such that even a widespread boycott from match going fans would make very little difference to the bottom line. 2) These massive English clubs have season ticket waiting lists well over a decade long. Even if some fans wanted to resign their tickets in protest at losing a home game to be played overseas, the club can replace them in an instant. If the Premier League and club owners decide that a small number of games each season are going abroad, the fans are completely powerless to stop that. It would require a total boycott, including want to be season ticket holders. Not sure if that’s achievable but the alternative is acceptance. As to the impact on the revenue lost, playing in empty stadia would be of equal impact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 1 minute ago, Granny Danger said: It would require a total boycott, including want to be season ticket holders. Not sure if that’s achievable but the alternative is acceptance. As to the impact on the revenue lost, playing in empty stadia would be of equal impact. Never going to happen. You might get some low level protests but EPL season tickets are not easy to come by and people aren’t just giving up the chance to have one. When the US started exporting a few NFL games per season about, there was a lot of moaning and groaning about it, but ultimately it became normalised and you don’t hear nearly as many complaints these days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 When the Super League was mooted there were pitch invasions and protests - and this was during Covid! A pitch invasion per matchweek, sit down protests, tennis balls, etc can be used. It's been done before, notably in Germany. As to American sports playing abroad - it's a bit different. In the NFL, you don't play every team let alone every team twice and travelling fans are very few and fat between. In the NBA and MLB, the teams play hundreds of games a season, so moving a couple of games is a minimal disruption to try and get other counties invested in the sport. Football, being the global game, doesn't need it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 1 minute ago, Salvo Montalbano said: travelling fans are very few and fat between Enjoyed this surprisingly accurate typo. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Just now, Bully Wee Villa said: Enjoyed this surprisingly accurate typo. Who says it was a typo? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DA Baracus Posted July 29 Share Posted July 29 Can't wait for the big Atlantis FC vs Moon Rovers derby in 2057. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 £34m for Emile Smif-Rowe. £34m for Riccardo Calafiori. Clubs will pay a £20m premium for #Barclays experience. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caledonian1 Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 8 hours ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: £34m for Emile Smif-Rowe. £34m for Riccardo Calafiori. Clubs will pay a £20m premium for #Barclays experience. It's utter madness. I saw today that a centre half who "plays" for liverpool is subject to a bid from PSV - Liverpool signed Van Den Bergh for £1.3m in 2019...he has never played a league game for them yet they currently value him at £20m....if he is that valuable then play him....... "The offer for Van den Berg, 22, came from Eredivisie club PSV Eindhoven. It is believed to have been worth £8.4m (10m euros) and falls well short of the Anfield club's valuation of closer to £20m for the centre-back. Van den Berg is currently with the Reds squad on their pre-season tour in the United States and started in the club's win against Real Betis. He joined Liverpool from PEC Zwolle in June 2019 and has since had loan spells at Preston, Schalke 04 and Mainz. Van den Berg was with Mainz last season, making 33 league appearances and scoring three goals as he helped them secure their Bundesliga status. The German club wanted him back but the valuations of the player were too far apart for a deal to be done." 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 8 hours ago, Caledonian1 said: It's utter madness. I saw today that a centre half who "plays" for liverpool is subject to a bid from PSV - Liverpool signed Van Den Bergh for £1.3m in 2019...he has never played a league game for them yet they currently value him at £20m....if he is that valuable then play him....... "The offer for Van den Berg, 22, came from Eredivisie club PSV Eindhoven. It is believed to have been worth £8.4m (10m euros) and falls well short of the Anfield club's valuation of closer to £20m for the centre-back. Van den Berg is currently with the Reds squad on their pre-season tour in the United States and started in the club's win against Real Betis. He joined Liverpool from PEC Zwolle in June 2019 and has since had loan spells at Preston, Schalke 04 and Mainz. Van den Berg was with Mainz last season, making 33 league appearances and scoring three goals as he helped them secure their Bundesliga status. The German club wanted him back but the valuations of the player were too far apart for a deal to be done." That starts off like he didn't kick a ball for 5 years and finishes that he actually played all of last season in the Bundesliga. It's a lot of money, but not surprising in today's circumstances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 https://www.yardbarker.com/soccer/articles/the_greenest_game_manchester_united_and_real_betis_promote_sustainability_in_football/s1_15962_40677297 Two teams flying tens of thousands of miles to play "the greenest game". 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 Grealish so far down the pecking order at Man City that he's playing in their pre season friendlies. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 28 minutes ago, sparky88 said: Grealish so far down the pecking order at Man City that he's playing in their pre season friendlies. Playing against a Scottish Barclays side in a summer kickabout in Buttfuck, Indiana effectively means he's going to be playing in Saudi Arabia by January. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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