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2 hours ago, Bairnardo said:

I wasn't actually aware there were stories about Sancho this week. Presumably the gist of it is that he missed training or something going by his statement....

 

Ten Haag criticised his application in training. A proper "u OK, ***?" Twitter post from Sancho there. 

Incidentally, £73m transfer fees on dross not good enough to get into the starting lineup and wages of £350k(!) a week to boot are exactly the reason Man Utd have resorted to signing geriatric failures or are loaning players not good enough for Tottenham. Not the Glazers' fault a succession of managers have spent big on utter dross. 

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To be fair, ten Hag does seem like a very average manager.  Probably not helped by the worst Man United squad in 30 odd years.  Look at what 'Ange' has managed with Spurs in about 8 weeks working with them.  And that's with losing a guy who is guaranteed to get you at least 30 goals a season.

ten Hag hasn't improved United one iota since he's been their manager.

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2 hours ago, SH Panda said:

English players can't be criticised in case they later claim to be victims of child abuse?

Interesting take.

It's hardly specific to one nationality, it's well known Martial has a stinking attitude too and, despite repeatedly playing badly, even he is ahead of Sancho.

Obviously footballers can be criticised - it's literally all that gets posted on this thread - but Dele Alli got the exact same shite about his attitude, professionalism and other comments about him as a person from folk who had absolutely no idea what he was going through, so what makes you so sure that Sancho isn't dealing with his own issues? He might well be a helmet, but you have absolutely no idea so why bother commenting on what he's like as a person?

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Sancho is in the wrong era I think. Back in the 80s and 90s he'd have been incredible due to his skills and trickery. When you play like that (some of his BVB highlights reels are fantastic) being lazy in training is almost expected and no big deal. Flair players and individuality have less of a place in the modern game.

 

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3 hours ago, TheScarf said:

To be fair, ten Hag does seem like a very average manager.  Probably not helped by the worst Man United squad in 30 odd years.  Look at what 'Ange' has managed with Spurs in about 8 weeks working with them.  And that's with losing a guy who is guaranteed to get you at least 30 goals a season.

ten Hag hasn't improved United one iota since he's been their manager.

It's not even close to being the worst Man U squad for 30. Although the fact SAF has won the title with worse isn't exactly an endorsement of Ten Haag.

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14 minutes ago, sparky88 said:

It's not even close to being the worst Man U squad for 30. Although the fact SAF has won the title with worse isn't exactly an endorsement of Ten Haag.

Which squad do you mean?  I can't think of one nearly as dogshit as this one.  Full of utter jobbers.

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13 minutes ago, TheScarf said:

Which squad do you mean?  I can't think of one nearly as dogshit as this one.  Full of utter jobbers.

 

2013 is the one people talk about, but I think that's overplayed. They still had a team full of established winners like Ferdinand, Evra, Rooney, Giggs, Fletcher, Vidic Carrick, Hernandez, plus had just bought the best player in the league in van Persie. They were also a last minute goal away from winning the league the previous season which shows even without van Persie (who is always credited with winning them the title) that they were a very good team.

What is definitely true is that team were right at the end of their winning cycle, all the guys mentioned were at, or slightly past, their best. And the youngsters Ferguson had brought in to be the next generation were largely useless. But that fact has kind of morphed into this idea that Ferguson worked miracles to win the league 2013, which isn't true.

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6 minutes ago, Diamonds are Forever said:

 

2013 is the one people talk about, but I think that's overplayed. They still had a team full of established winners like Ferdinand, Evra, Rooney, Giggs, Fletcher, Vidic Carrick, Hernandez, plus had just bought the best player in the league in van Persie. They were also a last minute goal away from winning the league the previous season which shows even without van Persie (who is always credited with winning them the title) that they were a very good team.

What is definitely true is that team were right at the end of their winning cycle, all the guys mentioned were at, or slightly past, their best. And the youngsters Ferguson had brought in to be the next generation were largely useless. But that fact has kind of morphed into this idea that Ferguson worked miracles to win the league 2013, which isn't true.

Aye I think that's where he was going. Or the 2011 one, which would be an equally mental shout.

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4 minutes ago, Jives Miguel said:

That Ten Hag interview is bordering on parody. Absolutely delusional takes.

 

I'd like to know why he doesn't get pelters for how defensive his sides are. If that was a Conte or Mourinho team yesterday, they would be getting murdered for bus parking.

I think its because he won the league a few times (with the biggest Dutch club, hardly an achievement)the Nigels seem to see him as some kind of messiah.  And also the media all want United to be brilliant again.  He's basically immune from criticism.

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2 minutes ago, Savage Henry said:

So I see a 42 year old Arsenal fan has been arrested and charged for trying to assault Roy Keane and Micah Richards.    Stupidity knows no bounds,  I guess.  

42 years old, christ, and given the incident appeared to be in a hospitality are he’s probably spent a thousands on it as well. 

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19 hours ago, s_dog said:

Like the comment on MotD from the Burnley game comparing their record of only 3 league defeats last season, and already lost 3 this year "it's the biggest jump in world football!" 

Heard this a couple times now too. 

I thought their 2nd tier was the strongest in world football?

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27 minutes ago, senorsoupe said:

Assaulting anyone is stupid, but assaulting Roy Keane is incredibly stupid

Wanting to assault Micah Richards is entirely understandable though. Probably a lovely man, but renders most football programs unwatchable.

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