topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: Neville is right that a minority investment is clearly the wrong path and is just more Glazers bullshit and siphoning money out the club. The minority investment is money going into the Glazers pocket for no control over the club as a whole. Which means the people giving the money are not doing it to have a play thing but purely as a capitalist endeavour to extract as much return on their investment as possible. As long as the Glazers remain there is no real possibility of Man Utd turning it around and getting back to seriously competing for the title and champions league. Th whole ethos of Man Utd right now is paying off intesting and paing out dividends. They've only paid $1.26/share in dividends over a decade and are currently trading at $17.69 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 What difference do Gary Neville's non-negotiables make to anything? I can say it's non-negotiable that I get made Pope, it's as likely to happen and what I say is about as relevant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: They've only paid $1.26/share in dividends over a decade and are currently trading at $17.69 When you say it like that it doesn't sound like a lot but there are a lot of shares. it is over $200m in total or $20m per year if my maths are correct. And that is just dividends. Nearly $1b has been paid out in bank interest over the Glazer period just in servicing the interest. So $1.2B at least paid out supportign the owners of the club while the debt continues to grow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 27 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said: What difference do Gary Neville's non-negotiables make to anything? I can say it's non-negotiable that I get made Pope, it's as likely to happen and what I say is about as relevant. Good post your holiness 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Good post your holiness 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: When you say it like that it doesn't sound like a lot but there are a lot of shares. it is over $200m in total or $20m per year if my maths are correct. And that is just dividends. Nearly $1b has been paid out in bank interest over the Glazer period just in servicing the interest. So $1.2B at least paid out supporting the owners of the club while the debt continues to grow. It's worth remembering that this is a plc that turns over about 3/4 of a billion dollars a year. They can take it For comparison They've spent $160M on the services of Harry Maguire Nonetheless all that debt taken on when money was cheap must be stinging a little in the new era of higher interest rates Edited October 17, 2023 by topcat(The most tip top) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 8 hours ago, Miguel Sanchez said: What difference do Gary Neville's non-negotiables make to anything? I can say it's non-negotiable that I get made Pope, it's as likely to happen and what I say is about as relevant. @johnnydun Get this sorted 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensible Soccer🏴 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 On 13/10/2023 at 23:07, Molotov said: I’d love all these foreign owners of English clubs to fcuk off to Saudi or wherever the owners live. In Scotland get Dermot Desmond to take Celtic “home” to Ireland. And The Rangers can go back in the sewers with the rats. 12 hours ago, topcat(The most tip top) said: Hibs would end up in Peru and Dundee in Texas Potentially Ross County moving from Dingwall to Invergordon, not sure how well that would go down with the locals 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/18/world/europe/everton-sale-777-partners.html Grim reading for Everton. Didn't realise they were in so much trouble. I suspect the fact the new stadium has been put forward for the Euro 2028 tournament will at least mean it will get finished. Feck knows how they will finance it though if this takeover falls through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 48 minutes ago, Musketeer Gripweed said: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/18/world/europe/everton-sale-777-partners.html Grim reading for Everton. Didn't realise they were in so much trouble. I suspect the fact the new stadium has been put forward for the Euro 2028 tournament will at least mean it will get finished. Feck knows how they will finance it though if this takeover falls through. Liverpool Echo Coverage (For those who can't be bothered going round the pay wall) https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-sale-jeopardy-777-stance-27930833 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 A hefty ban incoming for Samdro Tonali having admitted to betting offences whilst he was at Milan? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
++Ammo - Airdrie++ Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 56 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: A hefty ban incoming for Samdro Tonali having admitted to betting offences whilst he was at Milan? Was it a worldwide ban of about a year getting touted or did I read that wrong somewhere? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, ++Ammo - Airdrie++ said: Was it a worldwide ban of about a year getting touted or did I read that wrong somewhere? Iv read anywhere between a year and three years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musketeer Gripweed Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Nice to see Newcastle did a thorough research in to his background before signing him. Milan probably knew this was about to drop. Sold a pup is the term I think. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Musketeer Gripweed said: Nice to see Newcastle did a thorough research in to his background before signing him. Milan probably knew this was about to drop. Sold a pup is the term I think. Probably just assuming that enough #dolla to the right pocket will solve the issue. They've yet to be proven wrong in fairness. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 3 hours ago, Musketeer Gripweed said: Nice to see Newcastle did a thorough research in to his background before signing him. Milan probably knew this was about to drop. Sold a pup is the term I think. Apparently Juve were touting their boy around Europe at a heavily discounted rate all summer and there weren't any takers. Tonali supposedly wouldn't ever have got caught (or the boy on loan at Villa) if the Juve boy never handed his phone over. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
++Ammo - Airdrie++ Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 37 minutes ago, Derry Alli said: wouldn't ever have got caught if the boy never handed his phone over. We've all been there 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 1 minute ago, ++Ammo - Airdrie++ said: We've all been there No good can come of looking at someone else's, or showing someone else your own phone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
++Ammo - Airdrie++ Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Just now, Bairnardo said: No good can come of looking at someone else's, or showing someone else your own phone. Preach brother 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 33 minutes ago, ++Ammo - Airdrie++ said: We've all been there Never incriminate yourself. Always speak in riddles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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