LiviLion Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Hogwarts-style points handed out taken away at the end of the season live on Sky Sports news is going to be great fun. Everton and Nottingham Forest finishing in the bottom 3 anxiously waiting their final totals, and the big twist being Man City and Chelsea both docked enough to drop them out the league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Cut Ange and he bleeds Barclays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 On 18/03/2024 at 15:02, MEADOWXI said: Nottingham Forest points deduction: Loss of four points drops club into relegation zone - BBC Sport That's Forest docked 4 points, will appeal. The EPL getting in a mess over points deductions. The mess is the cheating, not the punishment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 (edited) Scratch the Sky Sports surface and English football at League level is becoming a joke. The Premier League has two teams with a points deduction, possibly with one to be added to and another cut on appeal. There's a very good chance we'll finish the season not knowing who has been relegated. The champions of five of the last six seasons are under investigation and seem very likely to be guilty of cheating on a large scale. They have a club owned by out-and-out murderers. If that was our league, people would be losing their minds at the tin-pottery of it all. Below that, the team top of the Championship have been charged with cheating, while the future of a whole load of clubs, most prominently Reading, is far from secure. Were it not for a play-off final win, Aston Villa would probably be Reading at this stage as well. And next season we'll just see more of this, as the spending is far from under control and clubs are trying more and more imaginative (dishonest) ways of getting round the rules. Not to mention the likelihood of the Championship winners starting the season in the Premier League on minus points. Absolute nonsense. Edited March 22 by VincentGuerin 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 Kyle Walker doing his hammy pinging a clearance off the back of Maguire's heid is very decent patter tbf. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wile E Coyote Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 58 minutes ago, RawB93 said: Kyle Walker doing his hammy pinging a clearance off the back of Maguire's heid is very decent patter tbf. Considering the talent on the field the game is fucking rotten 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 (edited) On 22/03/2024 at 08:44, VincentGuerin said: Scratch the Sky Sports surface and English football at League level is becoming a joke. The Premier League has two teams with a points deduction, possibly with one to be added to and another cut on appeal. There's a very good chance we'll finish the season not knowing who has been relegated. The champions of five of the last six seasons are under investigation and seem very likely to be guilty of cheating on a large scale. They have a club owned by out-and-out murderers. If that was our league, people would be losing their minds at the tin-pottery of it all. Below that, the team top of the Championship have been charged with cheating, while the future of a whole load of clubs, most prominently Reading, is far from secure. Were it not for a play-off final win, Aston Villa would probably be Reading at this stage as well. And next season we'll just see more of this, as the spending is far from under control and clubs are trying more and more imaginative (dishonest) ways of getting round the rules. Not to mention the likelihood of the Championship winners starting the season in the Premier League on minus points. Absolute nonsense. You missed out the current champions and most dominant side of the past few years are facing over 100 charges for cheating. And they seemingly won't be heard for at least another year. So while the bottom of the league is full of tin pot deductions if you are at the top it seems you can do whatever you want. Edited March 27 by Jim McLean's Ghost 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: You missed out the current champions and most dominant side of the past few years are facing over 100 charges for cheating. And they seemingly won't be heard for at least another year. So while the bottom of the league is full of tin pot deductions if you are at the top it seems you can do whatever you want. Didn't miss that at all, to be fair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Just now, VincentGuerin said: Didn't miss that at all, to be fair. My point was more about the huge disparity about how clubs are treated despite seemingly being in the same league rather than just the scale of city's cheating. #TheBig6 member Chelsea seems to also be immune to Financial Fair Play despite a lot of very dodgy shit happening at Stamford Bridge. So while the Premier League will go through Forest's books with a fine tooth comb they don't seem to be in a hurry to investigate what is going on at more prominent clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VincentGuerin Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 2 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: My point was more about the huge disparity about how clubs are treated despite seemingly being in the same league rather than just the scale of city's cheating. #TheBig6 member Chelsea seems to also be immune to Financial Fair Play despite a lot of very dodgy shit happening at Stamford Bridge. So while the Premier League will go through Forest's books with a fine tooth comb they don't seem to be in a hurry to investigate what is going on at more prominent clubs. Chelsea are a shambles, but I think the issue is that, so far, they've been smart enough to float within the rules. Generally using amortisation, loan fees, selling on youth etc to do so. If the rules stay similar to what they are, they're likely to run into massive bother in the next few years. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I think Chelsea have to sell something like £170m in the next 15 months to avoid punishment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 52 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said: My point was more about the huge disparity about how clubs are treated despite seemingly being in the same league rather than just the scale of city's cheating. #TheBig6 member Chelsea seems to also be immune to Financial Fair Play despite a lot of very dodgy shit happening at Stamford Bridge. So while the Premier League will go through Forest's books with a fine tooth comb they don't seem to be in a hurry to investigate what is going on at more prominent clubs. The other clubs admitted their guilt, City didn't and therefore they have to go through the whole process. This is City's MO in general, to obfuscate as much as possible, which is what got them off with the UEFA charges they were clearly guilty of. Therefore the Premier League are having to make sure everything is watertight before they proceed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 FFP is a joke. Armchair fans are the lifeblood of football at the top level and absolutely no attention is being paid to their concerns. People want to see the best players at the best teams. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 10 minutes ago, Barry Ferguson's Hat said: FFP is a joke. Armchair fans are the lifeblood of football at the top level and absolutely no attention is being paid to their concerns. People want to see the best players at the best teams. Exactly. How are City meant to earn legitimately through shirt sales and Instant noodle partnerships in South East Asia if they are not allowed to sign the best players? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68686129 Wee Sandro loves the betting Edited March 28 by MazzyStar 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Xabi Alonso staying at Leverkusen. Who next for Liverpool? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 3 hours ago, Highlandmagar said: Xabi Alonso staying at Leverkusen. Who next for Liverpool? Guardiola for the banter. Man City charged and demoted to League Two, he leaves citing the "if they have lied to me, I will leave" speech when the charges were first announced, heads explode all over the North West of England. Or the Sporting Lisbon manager. One of the two. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Letting clubs appeal against financial punishments is daft. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richey Edwards Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 11 minutes ago, sparky88 said: Letting clubs appeal against financial punishments is daft. The punishment should double if the appeal fails. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 20 minutes ago, sparky88 said: Letting clubs appeal against financial punishments is daft. Letting clubs straight back into the Scottish professional football league structure despite being liquidated having cheated financially for decades is daft too. Jings - there were some people in power in Scottish football trying to get the new club straight back in the top division. It seems the more debt clubs incur the less you get punished. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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