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2 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

The first Barclays Global Season is going to be the greatest event this planet has ever seen.

Amazing to think that factually speaking, we've never been closer to this happening. Only in the Barclays 

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58 minutes ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

The first Barclays Global Season is going to be the greatest event this planet has ever seen.

What is he talking about?
They already go away and play these type of games, disguised as pre-season friendlies in the likes of America. Then complain that the problem is players travelling too far for international games. 

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It's all about money.

I support an EPL club, but the entirely of English football are scared to death of the Saudi league and them "destroying the fabric of football".

(They're fine with the EPL monopolising the financial landscape of European football)

They're now trying to go down the NFL route of playing a few of their games abroad.

EPL fans will tolerate that as much as they tolerated the prospect of a European Super League.

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21 minutes ago, Chripper said:

It's all about money.

I support an EPL club, but the entirely of English football are scared to death of the Saudi league and them "destroying the fabric of football".

(They're fine with the EPL monopolising the financial landscape of European football)

They're now trying to go down the NFL route of playing a few of their games abroad.

EPL fans will tolerate that as much as they tolerated the prospect of a European Super League.

The super league wasn't everyone in the league. If all the clubs are in agreement the fans will get fucked clean off. 

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Just now, AMMjag said:

I'd sooner watch a game in LA than shAnfield, and in any case the costs involved are very affordable for me.

The fact that I use an IPTV to steal the Barclays product makes me feel extra smug about their game being taken away from the fans who shepherded in the #Barclays/GLITW era

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The most passionate #Barclays fans are from Africa and Asia anyway nowadays.

Only right that they get to see their heroes in the flesh week in week out.

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18 hours ago, Miguel Sanchez said:

The first Barclays Global Season is going to be the greatest event this planet has ever seen.

If the season ticket holders and other regular attendees together with the FA allow that to happen they deserve everything they get.

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1 hour ago, Granny Danger said:

If the season ticket holders and other regular attendees together with the FA allow that to happen they deserve everything they get.

What power do the season ticket holders and other regular attendees have to stop it?

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2 hours ago, JS_FFC said:

What power do the season ticket holders and other regular attendees have to stop it?

Let’s see if you can work that one out for yourself.

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2 hours ago, JS_FFC said:

What power do the season ticket holders and other regular attendees have to stop it?

More than none

but not as much as they’d like to think

American Sports team owners will regularly move an entire franchise halfway across the continent for commercial reasons despite the unpopularity of that with season ticket holders and regular attendees so they’re unlikely to be deterred by Chelsea supporters from staging games in Vegas

 

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31 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

Let’s see if you can work that one out for yourself.

The closest to home example of fan power in action was the fan backlash when oldco Rangers went into liquidation in 2012. Many Scottish football clubs were ready to vote them back into the (then) SPL or at very least to the (then) first division and only club chairmen being inundated with emails from match going fans ultimately led to them being banished down to the bottom of the professional leagues.

 

In the English Premier League, this fan power DOESNOTEXIST.


In order to properly understand this, consider the following facts:

 

1) Match day revenue is a much, much lower percentage of overall revenue for your Man Utds and Liverpools of the world than it is for your Motherwells and your Alloas. TV money and other commercial interests are such that even a widespread boycott from match going fans would make very little difference to the bottom line.

 

2) These massive English clubs have season ticket waiting lists well over a decade long. Even if some fans wanted to resign their tickets in protest at losing a home game to be played overseas, the club can replace them in an instant.

 

If the Premier League and club owners decide that a small number of games each season are going abroad, the fans are completely powerless to stop that. 

 

 

 

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Presumably there are still people not getting what the point of these hedge fund types getting their claws into these clubs in the first place was? 

They will happily leave scorched earth behind once they have milked every pound they can. 

These types rank only behind human being themselves as the greatest parasitic force in the known Universe. 

I'm sooooo here for it though. All of it. Can't wait till the Barclays story reaches its utterly obvious and foregone conclusion

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2 minutes ago, JS_FFC said:

The closest to home example of fan power in action was the fan backlash when oldco Rangers went into liquidation in 2012. Many Scottish football clubs were ready to vote them back into the (then) SPL or at very least to the (then) first division and only club chairmen being inundated with emails from match going fans ultimately led to them being banished down to the bottom of the professional leagues.

 

In the English Premier League, this fan power DOESNOTEXIST.


In order to properly understand this, consider the following facts:

 

1) Match day revenue is a much, much lower percentage of overall revenue for your Man Utds and Liverpools of the world than it is for your Motherwells and your Alloas. TV money and other commercial interests are such that even a widespread boycott from match going fans would make very little difference to the bottom line.

 

2) These massive English clubs have season ticket waiting lists well over a decade long. Even if some fans wanted to resign their tickets in protest at losing a home game to be played overseas, the club can replace them in an instant.

 

If the Premier League and club owners decide that a small number of games each season are going abroad, the fans are completely powerless to stop that. 

 

 

 

It would require a total boycott, including want to be season ticket holders.  Not sure if that’s achievable but the alternative is acceptance.

As to the impact on the revenue lost,  playing in empty stadia would be of equal impact.

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1 minute ago, Granny Danger said:

It would require a total boycott, including want to be season ticket holders.  Not sure if that’s achievable but the alternative is acceptance.

As to the impact on the revenue lost,  playing in empty stadia would be of equal impact.

Never going to happen. You might get some low level protests but EPL season tickets are not easy to come by and people aren’t just giving up the chance to have one.

 

When the US started exporting a few NFL games per season about, there was a lot of moaning and groaning about it, but ultimately it became normalised and you don’t hear nearly as many complaints these days.

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When the Super League was mooted there were pitch invasions and protests - and this was during Covid! A pitch invasion per matchweek, sit down protests, tennis balls, etc can be used. It's been done before, notably in Germany. 

As to American sports playing abroad - it's a bit different. In the NFL, you don't play every team let alone every team twice and travelling fans are very few and fat between. In the NBA and MLB, the teams play hundreds of games a season, so moving a couple of games is a minimal disruption to try and get other counties invested in the sport. Football, being the global game, doesn't need it.

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