Batshit Mental Away Supporter Rules

[D Angelo Barksdale]

Risible stuff, some of which is completely unenforceable or policable.

Passenger lists and 'fan passports' coming soon.

[Dons_1988]

1 minute ago, Staggie52 said:

Where does the Scottish Government come into this? It’s the UK Traffic Commissioner requesting permission from the UK Government to introduce the guidelines. They will be policed by the Traffic Commisioners who come under the UK Government.

Not disputing that, the pissing is clearly coming from Westminster, but there’s a wider dynamic playing out between the two governments. 

The consultation talks about ‘a consistent approach across Great Britain’ which is part of a wider play to diminish devolved influence. 

[Alert Mongoose]

5 minutes ago, Staggie52 said:

Where does the Scottish Government come into this? It’s the UK Traffic Commissioner requesting permission from the UK Government to introduce the guidelines. They will be policed by the Traffic Commisioners who come under the UK Government.

I think what he means is this is part of the UK government's policy of trying to increase UK wide influence. 

Load of nonsense anyway since the police budgets on both sides of the border are so low there is next to zero chance of them putting any effort into this.

[mizfit]

Get this to f**k. I sincerely hope fans voice their thoughts on this to their clubs, and also to their local MP’s. 
 

Rugby fans fighting on trains gets ignored yet we’re not allowed one can of beer. Get it to f**k. 

[DA Baracus]

Thankfully I usually get the train, but what a silly old load of pish this is.

I mind a few years back a Pars supporters bus got a police 'escort' out of Brechin. Laughable stuff. 

[Crawford]

Fucking state of that Swansea statement regarding travel.

If you live in Cardiff, you can "apply to travel directly" but you still have to purchase the bus travel package. If accepted you will get a refund.

As others have said, police Scotland will be positively jizzing about arrangements like this down south and will be pushing hard for them up here. Couple that with teams, for all intents and purposes banning away supporters, only makes that request more "reasonable".

[Pens_Dark]

What is the charge? A meal? A succulent substantial meal?

[Hedgecutter]

9 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

I mind a few years back a Pars supporters bus got a police 'escort' out of Brechin. Laughable stuff. 

I mind a relatively heavy police presence at the QoS v Brechin 'Old Farm' Challenge Cup Final at Broadwood.

(then) Strathclyde Police at their finest.

[Melanius Mullarkey]

#acab

[DA Baracus]

2 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said:

I mind a relatively heavy police presence at the QoS v Brechin 'Old Farm' Challenge Cup Final at Broadwood.

(then) Strathclyde Police at their finest.

Clearly you Brechin fans have a bad reputation.

[mizfit]

38 minutes ago, DA Baracus said:

Thankfully I usually get the train, but what a silly old load of pish this is.

That’s exactly what the bill will do, people will look at other methods of transport to away games. 

[Dundee Hibernian]

I see there is a proposed requirement for "at least one responsible adult for the minors carried" to be nominated. That being the case, would they have to be checked by 'Disclosure Scotland' for suitability?

Noting too that the PSV operators would have to undergo increased paperwork and their vehicles have to arrive "not later than one hour before the scheduled start of the game", this would potentially mean a longer hire required: it's going to cost more to book buses.

And pick ups from pubs potentially will be refused unless they serve 'sunstantial meals'. It's a kick in the balls to the licensed trade as well.

Everyone affected should be writing to that penpusher in Leeds, insisting on a response.

Mark Richardson
Policy and Business Support Officer
Traffic Commissioner Corporate Office
Hillcrest House
386 Harehills Lane
Leeds
LS9 6NF

[ICTChris]

The most police I've ever seen at a Caley game was our cup tie with Elgin - police everywhere, lins of riot police seperating the fans, police dogs surrounding the pitch at full time.  There was still some trouble between the young lads on both sides.

The Swansea v Cardiff stuff seems crazy but that has been the situation with that fixture for a long time.  It has some of the worst history of hooliganism in the English leagues and I think if it was run as a 'normal' game there's a pretty high chance that there could be serious crowd trouble.  Aside from an Old Firm game, which is slightly different I think, I don't think there are any fixtures in Scottish football like that.  

[RandomGuy.]

8 minutes ago, mizfit said:

That’s exactly what the bill will do, people will look at other methods of transport to away games. 

Does it include people who just hire minibuses?

You could maybe just privately create a fund, people put money in, then you hire a minibus for the day. Getting the pub booked might be the hard part.

[Doakes]

"hello, officer, we're on our way back from Ross County and a few of the boys want to stop at the service station for the toilet as the one on board is absolutely stinking" 

[oneteaminglasgow]

I can’t help but feel that restricting the ability for the bus to stop at pubs will do nothing but encourage people to bring more alcohol onto the bus itself. Which seems counterproductive. 

[Hedgecutter]

2 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said:

Does it include people who just hire minibuses?

You could maybe just privately create a fund, people put money in, then you hire a minibus for the day. Getting the pub booked might be the hard part.

Or start up a 'Perthshire Floodlight Appreciation Society' that has buses going to various grounds.

"We're here to see the Tamlite XG246. We can't help it if people wander off into ground, officer"

[Fife Saint]

2 minutes ago, Doakes said:

"hello, officer, we're on our way back from Ross County and a few of the boys want to stop at the service station for the toilet as the one on board is absolutely stinking" 

You never said please.

[gmfc]

Supporters clubs will just get creative going to away games. Also every supporter should be bombarding their MSP with emails asking them not to support this draconian dictatorship against supporters rights to travel. What will be next supporters travelling on trains or by car. This country is becoming nuts with the way it is treating the public.

[Doakes]

4 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said:

Or start up a 'Perthshire Floodlight Appreciation Society' that has buses going to various grounds.

"We're here to see the Tamlite XG246. We can't help it if people wander off into ground, officer"

The Ferguslie Park bowling club bus to Dundee bowling club just gained a few additional members