Pollok crowd limit

[lokforever]

Has been increased to 2,088.

https://www.pollokfc.com/2023/09/27/newlandsfield-capacity/

[Shanner]

Good, it was a desperately stupid restriction. 

[Jordi1977]

4 minutes ago, lokforever said:

Has been increased to 2,088.

https://www.pollokfc.com/2023/09/27/newlandsfield-capacity/

That's a much more sensible capacity! And quite a jump! What had changed to get the increase?

[Sergeant Wilson]

22 minutes ago, CFCBAFC said:

What stand have they added capacity to? 

Polloks stadium is quite big already

Raised the roof of the enclosure and put another tier of terracing in.

Edited September 27, 2023 by Sergeant Wilson

[Pollok mad]

23 minutes ago, CFCBAFC said:

What stand have they added capacity to? 

Polloks stadium is quite big already

No real changes have been made to the ground, just the council reassessing the maximum capacity they gave us.

[superpollok]

30 minutes ago, Jordi1977 said:

That's a much more sensible capacity! And quite a jump! What had changed to get the increase?

Common sense and hard work by those involved to get it changed. 

[GNU_Linux]

Newlansfield having a big capacity than Lesser Hampden is some laugh.

[Bestsinceslicebread]

1 hour ago, lokforever said:

Has been increased to 2,088.

https://www.pollokfc.com/2023/09/27/newlandsfield-capacity/

This is brill but shocked at how much, I was maybe thinking 1300 although the part

Consequently, the Club is able to re-introduce exit and re-entry at half-time with immediate effect

They locked the gates at the Benburb game at half time and there was a bit of a stramash. Pollok said they committee decided to arrange this but i don't think you can legally lock a fire exit door from the inside incase something happens?, I could be wrong though but doubt it

Now that Pollok will allow the gates to be open at half time is superb, even if some youngsters are passing hearing the crowd, seeing the gate open they can pop into watch as there's plenty of passing public and they might become supporter or want to play for Pollok so more potential in my eyes

Edited September 27, 2023 by Bestsinceslicebread

[superpollok]

Pollok don’t lock fire exits, they will let you out, just not let you back in. That’s what is changing.
 

as for 1300, comfortably exceeded that many times in the Junior leagues (Talbot, Arthurlie games) 

[Shanner]

1 hour ago, GNU_Linux said:

Newlansfield having a big capacity than Lesser Hampden is some laugh.

I couldn't believe they built that mad royal box thing for Haughty and chums instead of another stand at LH. It's an absolute snider of a venue. I was reading somewhere that they demolished the oldest football related building in the world to accommodate the box thing. Mental and quite sad if true.

Anyway, good news for Pollok.

[Bestsinceslicebread]

1 hour ago, superpollok said:

Pollok don’t lock fire exits, they will let you out, just not let you back in. That’s what is changing.
 

as for 1300, comfortably exceeded that many times in the Junior leagues (Talbot, Arthurlie games) 

As I'm not a regular but i go when i can, and I'm not going to call you a lair as you my not know what was arranged, as at the time I'm the big f#+king guy who stopped the fight at the gate. The official at the gate then joined by another committee member after and he also said they voted to lock the gate and anyone needing out would not be allowed back in. FACT.

Yeah I agree I think Pollok can hold 2000 but with the regulations so tight, I think I'm genuinely surprised that they were allowed the capacity to rise to such, which is brilliant.
While we are at it, another deflating one, think I remember there used to be about 5 to 10 teams from the academy going to the Pollok matches and with the Scottish tie against Benburb, a local derby, there was only one group of boys in Pollok tracksuits as if there was from the academy, but defiantly no groups there and that, Pollok are missing a big trick and its so disappointing for the chance of more youth coming through the ranks of players and or supporters, such a shame. (Just thinking there, shocker, only reason I can think of is that the crowd restrictions would have halted their entry).

P.S. the committee member said the official crowd was 867 for the Scottish tie against Benburb and that was at half time he told me after the stramash.

Edited September 27, 2023 by Bestsinceslicebread

[Thejackdaw]

A ground that was always capable of holding 2088 is getting the go ahead to allow 2088 into their ground,  glad that this 900 nonsense is finished with as pollok got a real bad deal with that for sure  .

[paul-r-cfc]

1 hour ago, Bestsinceslicebread said:

As I'm not a regular but i go when i can, and I'm not going to call you a lair as you my not know what was arranged, as at the time I'm the big f#+king guy who stopped the fight at the gate. The official at the gate then joined by another committee member after and he also said they voted to lock the gate and anyone needing out would not be allowed back in. FACT.

 

People were allowed out, they just informed that they would not be allowed back in. Your initial post wrongly suggested that Pollok were disregarding basic safety regulations and locking people in. NOT FACT.

[Bestsinceslicebread]

27 minutes ago, paul-r-cfc said:

People were allowed out, they just informed that they would not be allowed back in. Your initial post wrongly suggested that Pollok were disregarding basic safety regulations and locking people in. NOT FACT.

I knew there was someone gonna comment back and talk shit about something they haven't a clue as they were not there during the incident.

Yes it was, he told me he had to lock the gate and stand by it and unlock it when someone wanted out and I told him and the other committee member they better check the rules as you cannot lock a fire exit from the inside, (i believe I'm right as i told the 3 members but asked them to check) so don't say stuff you don't not know about it.  The stramash happened when the official unlocked the gate and then said once you leave you cannot get back in, that's when the fan went mental and for once instance the reply from the official was wrong an this made it wore, that when i stepped in.

  FACT I was there, I was beside the other guys when he said it, the other committee member said that's was the rules for this match, so don't open your mouth about something that you do not know anything about.  The gate was locked and had to be unlocked and unhappy fan said he wans putting  a letter in to complain and the official said he was putting a letter in to the committee to cover his ass.  P.s folks, for clarity, the official was always standing near the gate to unlock.

Heaven forbids but what happens if the committee member has a stroke as he's going to unlock gate with a crowd and then you cannot move him due to any incident.

 

Paul to you

How can the initial post that i put up that states

"said they committee decided to arrange this but i don't think you can legally lock a fire exit door from the inside incase something happens?, I could be wrong though but doubt it"

That isn't classed as fact from me from your post, (see people who change shit or twist it, i don't get why they do it)

I asked the committee members to check the rules regarding health and safety to what they were doing and asking if it was legal or not, whether they put out a statement or just let it go unnoticed and change the way they work then fine.

Edited September 27, 2023 by Bestsinceslicebread

[parsforlife]

No re-entry is a common policy and almost a requirement when capacity has even the slighted chance of being reached. It would seem with the capacity more than doubling that it’s much easier to know you can let a few re-enter and still be confident if a load of folk blagged there way in you would still be within safety thresholds.

I have absolutely no idea why a no re-entry policy would cause issues at a ground, nevermind to the point of near riot, licensing requires a lot from the ground that means all facilities are provided for the 2+ hours you are inside.  There are many reasons why you may leave early from the team being shite or a family emergency, but I don’t see what situations you feel desperate to leave and come back 10 minutes later

Edited September 29, 2023 by parsforlife

[Bestsinceslicebread]

Just now, parsforlife said:

No re-entry is a common policy and almost a requirement when capacity has even the slighted chance of being reached. It would seem with the capacity more than doubling that it’s much easier to know you can let a few re-enter and still be confident if a load of folk bragged there way in you would still be within safety thresholds.

I have absolutely no idea why a no re-entry policy would cause issues at a ground, nevermind to the point of near riot, licensing requires a lot from the ground that means all facilities are provided for the 2+ hours you are inside.  There are many reasons why you may leave early from the team being shite or a family emergency, but I don’t see what situations you feel desperate to leave and come back 10 minutes later

Pars, please read my post I never said it could cause a riot, I  just said fans who wanted out, and the fan was with 3 other lads went mental at not getting back in.
Health and Safety rules are in place incase of the unexpected happens.

In fact before the incident, there was a elderly man walked up to the official and said he didn't feel well and could he be let out and he was told you cannot return and he said that was fine,  ffs I asked him if he was Ok and he said he would be fine and someone was picking him up.
 

If that's was the rules of no re entry then that is fine but it should be in the interest of Pollok to inform fans of such they should inform everyone, nothing wrong with their choice but i think if the gates are locked from the inside I'm sure this is wrong, sure someone might know factually to clarity this!

The main reason why quite a few wanted out at half time was that Pollok only have one snack bar and the queues were huge so quite a few wanted out, to get to the locals shops, (its a built up area) and get drinks and food and come back in which would have been a lot quicker.  It was very hot and it went to extra time and penalties so it was a very long day.  As i said, I was told by one of the top officials that it was 867 crowd.

[Dean Learner]

16 minutes ago, Bestsinceslicebread said:

Pars, please read my post I never said it could cause a riot, I  just said fans who wanted out, and the fan was with 3 other lads went mental at not getting back in.
Health and Safety rules are in place incase of the unexpected happens.

In fact before the incident, there was a elderly man walked up to the official and said he didn't feel well and could he be let out and he was told you cannot return and he said that was fine,  ffs I asked him if he was Ok and he said he would be fine and someone was picking him up.
 

If that's was the rules of no re entry then that is fine but it should be in the interest of Pollok to inform fans of such they should inform everyone, nothing wrong with their choice but i think if the gates are locked from the inside I'm sure this is wrong, sure someone might know factually to clarity this!

The main reason why quite a few wanted out at half time was that Pollok only have one snack bar and the queues were huge so quite a few wanted out, to get to the locals shops, (its a built up area) and get drinks and food and come back in which would have been a lot quicker.  It was very hot and it went to extra time and penalties so it was a very long day.  As i said, I was told by one of the top officials that it was 867 crowd.

I admittedly could be wrong on this but I'm fairly certain the club announced before the first game of the season that they would no longer allow readmittance this season. Wouldn't imagine it's commonplace to then announce the same at every game throughout the season. As I said though, I could be misremembering. 

Seems like a rare sensible decision from the council. Surprised the jump is so big but a sell out was still leaving the ground empty on one side under the 900 limit. Positive change. 

[Bestsinceslicebread]

8 minutes ago, Dean Learner said:

I admittedly could be wrong on this but I'm fairly certain the club announced before the first game of the season that they would no longer allow readmittance this season. Wouldn't imagine it's commonplace to then announce the same at every game throughout the season. As I said though, I could be misremembering. 

Seems like a rare sensible decision from the council. Surprised the jump is so big but a sell out was still leaving the ground empty on one side under the 900 limit. Positive change. 

No the officials said it was voted on by the committee for the Benburb Scottish cup game, other games I haven't a clue about.

The only issue I believe out of all of this is that the fire exits are locked from the inside

Edited September 27, 2023 by Bestsinceslicebread

[superpollok]

1 minute ago, Bestsinceslicebread said:

No the officials said it was voted on by the committee for the Benburb Scottish cup game, other games I haven't a clue about.

In has been in place at every game this season and has been announced before the start of every game. 
 

Anyway, positive news today despite your attempt to create something out of nothing. And questioning how many could be allowed in.

if you were at the Bens game as you said, you could easily see Newlandfield could hold double that at least as it was empty. 

 

[paul-r-cfc]

1 hour ago, Bestsinceslicebread said:

I knew there was someone gonna comment back and talk shit about something they haven't a clue as they were not there during the incident.

Yes it was, he told me he had to lock the gate and stand by it and unlock it when someone wanted out and I told him and the other committee member they better check the rules as you cannot lock a fire exit from the inside, (i believe I'm right as i told the 3 members but asked them to check) so don't say stuff you don't not know about it.  The stramash happened when the official unlocked the gate and then said once you leave you cannot get back in, that's when the fan went mental and for once instance the reply from the official was wrong an this made it wore, that when i stepped in.

  FACT I was there, I was beside the other guys when he said it, the other committee member said that's was the rules for this match, so don't open your mouth about something that you do not know anything about.  The gate was locked and had to be unlocked and unhappy fan said he wans putting  a letter in to complain and the official said he was putting a letter in to the committee to cover his ass.  P.s folks, for clarity, the official was always standing near the gate to unlock.

Heaven forbids but what happens if the committee member has a stroke as he's going to unlock gate with a crowd and then you cannot move him due to any incident.

 

Paul to you

How can the initial post that i put up that states

"said they committee decided to arrange this but i don't think you can legally lock a fire exit door from the inside incase something happens?, I could be wrong though but doubt it"

That isn't classed as fact from me from your post, (see people who change shit or twist it, i don't get why they do it)

I asked the committee members to check the rules regarding health and safety to what they were doing and asking if it was legal or not, whether they put out a statement or just let it go unnoticed and change the way they work then fine.

Regarding 'talking shit' about something I haven't got a clue about, I am on the committee and can safely say I know more than you who goes to the occasional game. As was mentioned above, this was announced by the club and people were being informed of this from last season at the gate. Fairly standard practice at any venues, particularly ones at capacity. Big stadiums in Scotland will not have doors unlocked as standard, as people would wander in off the street. They are opened to let people out as required and then locked again.

In  the event of an emergency at Newlandsfield, the gate would be opened and then locked again. In the bizarre, hypothetical event that you described where an official has had a stroke, then one of several key holders would open the gate in his place, presumably after seeing to the stricken committee man. I would also assume that supporters would have the wherewithal not to clamber over him to get to Morrisons also.

Not entirely sure what the rest of your rant is about to be honest, so will leave it at that.