NathanDrake88 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Embarrassing from the junior team in disguise yet again! -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoose Rice Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, NathanDrake88 said: Embarrassing from the junior team in disguise yet again! Why are they a junior team in disguise when there's clubs in the league below with games off also? I also don't think it's embarrassing. Edited December 2, 2023 by Hoose Rice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldaft Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, LIVIFOREVER said: Also the reason we got the pitch was down to cost v having a grass one, adding USH would change the pros and cons of that a bit. It's meant to take -4 i think, been lower than that the last few days, we all it would be off. Yes because no matter where you're located, everywhere in the Country has the exact same conditions, and the other games called off today, some with grass pitches, should be on because Motherwell's is on, ok. The thing is Livi are in the top flight. I have nothing against Livi per se. But there ought to be minimum conditions to being in the top flight relating to efforts to get games on. Of course the weather differs from one part of the country to the other. But Livingston is 23 miles away from Motherwell not 230 miles away. What covers did Livi have on the pitch knowing the forecast and below freezing temperatures? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Jakey Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, LIVIFOREVER said: Then you'd have the weight of the snow on the covers, good luck trying to lift them. Silly boy. Does the Livingston Designer Outlet not sell shovels? All fur coats and no shovels it would seem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, welldaft said: The thing is Livi are in the top flight. I have nothing against Livi per se. But there ought to be minimum conditions to being in the top flight relating to efforts to get games on. Of course the weather differs from one part of the country to the other. But Livingston is 23 miles away from Motherwell not 230 miles away. What covers did Livi have on the pitch knowing the forecast and below freezing temperatures? We obv met the requirements, but this happens every winter, not just to us, County and some others, think it was Dundee and Aberdeen, have had postponements, shit happens. There are differences from one half of Livingston to the other let alone 23 miles apart, there's a dip in the Almondvale area, and part of the ground is obstructed by the stand, allowing no sunshine onto it. I worked in Motherwell years back doing a job that got rained off, and i filled my van up at the petrol station a mile up the road and there was no rain. Also was snowed off in Fauldhouse and went to a job in Seafield a few miles away and was able to work no problem. You just can't compare one area to another thinking it's the same. Covers don't help when it snows, makes it impossible to clear with machinery without damaging them, we usually clear snow away no problem, and snow was forecast. We've got games on before when it was frosty and snowed, but sometimes everything comes together that makes it impossible. Edited December 2, 2023 by LIVIFOREVER 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, welldaft said: I think fans of other teams are quite right to point out the inadequacies of Livi plastic pitch. I am quite sure when it was installed one of the reasons would be that it would stand up better to inclement weather than grass pitches. Well that is patently shite. What are you talking about? The pitch has stood up much better than when we had grass. If we had grass we'd have barely played in December since we came up, and the games from January onwards would have been in a swamp. 1 hour ago, welldaft said: all weather pitch Ah, you're an idiot, never mind then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LIVIFOREVER Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Pete the Jakey said: Does the Livingston Designer Outlet not sell shovels? All fur coats and no shovels it would seem. You're just being silly, grow up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Drove into Edinburgh this morning, roads covered in snow but 10 miles down the road the sun was out and not even a bit of frost. Why did Livingston FC do this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldaft Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, LiviLion said: What are you talking about? The pitch has stood up much better than when we had grass. If we had grass we'd have barely played in December since we came up, and the games from January onwards would have been in a swamp. Ah, you're an idiot, never mind then Perhaps if you invested in undersoil heating (when u had grass) as most top flight clubs do or should do then it would not have been a problem.. If it makes you feel better to call me an idiot go for it. A lot of the times you would be right. Does not divert from the fact that Livi invest the minimal amount they can in their pitch v other teams. As Pete rightly alludes to it is quite convenient given your shit run of form for this to be called off against a recently resurgent Ross County. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durnford Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Actually quite glad its off today; under the weather today and didn't fancy sitting in an all seater stadium for a couple of hours shivering my ####### off. We do have heavy duty covers but being situated in a valley doesn't really help. I seem to recall a few years back St Mirren (I think) tried out some sort of heated tent idea. Presumably it wasn't a success as, I believe they have reverted to undersoil heating? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
larry the lion Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 there's something terribly indulgent and mildly unsettling about trying to unfreeze hundreds of tons of soil that has naturally frozen due to seasonal changes, burning huge amounts of energy and potentially contributing to climate damage, in an effort to facilitate already over-privileged and entitled humans in their tribalistic, ritualistic endeavours. It snowed. The game is off. End of story. We don't have the money for it, someone in the class has to be the poor one, don't be that bully. Unlike some lucky (Motherwell) fans I'll now have to find something else to fill my over-privileged and entitled weekend with. I'm sure I'll cope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clangers Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, welldaft said: Perhaps if you invested in undersoil heating (when u had grass) as most top flight clubs do or should do then it would not have been a problem.. If it makes you feel better to call me an idiot go for it. A lot of the times you would be right. Does not divert from the fact that Livi invest the minimal amount they can in their pitch v other teams. As Pete rightly alludes to it is quite convenient given your shit run of form for this to be called off against a recently resurgent Ross County. We have had our undersoil heating on the past few days and it hasn’t stopped our pitch getting 5 inches of snow on it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy.1995 Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Undersold heating in whichever guise is simply a luxury we haven't for years simply been unable to afford.It costs a significant sum to have it on for 3 to 4 days prior to a match.I get people getting on their proverbial high horses spouting the usual drivel over and over again.Livi fans are as dissapointed as others its off,but the financial facts speak for themselves. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkboy Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 2 hours ago, welldaft said: I think fans of other teams are quite right to point out the inadequacies of Livi plastic pitch. I am quite sure when it was installed one of the reasons would be that it would stand up better to inclement weather than grass pitches. Well that is patently shite. Motherwell spent over a £million on our pitch and guess what it is playable today in the same weather that the all weather pitch is not. Would rather have had some of that million to spend on players and we might not be on a 10 game winless streak. Plus County now have a few days rest ahead of our game on Tuesday whilst we no doubt pick up injuries and suspensions. So aye. f**k Livi and their shite plastic pitch. It is funny that if you look at the companies who provide artificial surfaces their websites stress heavily they aren't actually all-weather surfaces. I have no idea if Livi salted the pitch with special pure salt before the freeze came in, whether insulating covers work with 4G surfaces or whatever else. Maybe there's a good reason they didn't do these things, maybe they were just tight. I just thought it was funny that Sherrif John Bunnell's prediction came true within minutes of the game being called off, & by someone whose side has no interested in this battle between relegation fodder at that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welldaft Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Clangers said: We have had our undersoil heating on the past few days and it hasn’t stopped our pitch getting 5 inches of snow on it! To be fair it wouldn’t . If Livi have heavy duty covers and had them on the pitch. And it is still unplayable - fair enough. I have a game to go to and hopefully put a wee bit more distance between us and Livi. Probably won’t work out that way but I will think of you guys in your warm living room as we drive past Livingston on the M8 heading west. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 2 hours ago, forkboy said: Aye, you called it. It's zero surprise to see Mr White senior heading up that brigade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Living in the centre of Edinburgh there is basically no snow to talk of and my car didn't need to be scraped of ice. Drive outside the city and is quite different. The distance between Edinburgh and Livingston can turn in to a winter wonderland in the space of 10 miles. Presumably something linked to land, geography and weather etc in that area. A Dees game I went to a bunch of years back with a mate of mine against Livi in January is easily the most brutally freezing match we have ever attended. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty-RCFC Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 https://twitter.com/daveblacklfc/status/1730931377560834515?s=46&t=ifEZjmsywM4zZ6LsoCdAjw I’m aware that there could be specific areas of the pitch not in camera sight that could be causing the game to be called off, however that pitch looks… alright? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete the Jakey Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, LiviLion said: Why did Livingston FC do this? I don’t know why, but can tell you how: prioritising funds on playing staff over facilities. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoP Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 I’m glad this games off, ramps up the pressure on the relegation fodder when it’s nearer the end of the season, mid week, and the trap door is getting closer * *I won’t be thinking that if we lose at Motherwell today even though I’m cautiously optimistic we’re going to be clear of all that for once this season 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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