houston_bud Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 2 hours ago, PTR said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/var-going-nowhere-sfa-chief-33013334 Now we have the reasons why VAR is "here to stay" and it is complete gibberish, without embarrassment, or respect for the intelligence of fans. Interesting we have officials literally making stuff up in their heads and presenting it as fact. I particularly like this quote “Anybody that thinks we are way behind the curve in Europe or so forth needs to go and visit some of these other countries because when I do go, all I hear about are the challenges they’re having with VAR." Great argument, VAR is shite in other countries too, so lets stick with it. 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Stiles Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 3 hours ago, KingswellsRed said: Disgraceful way to speak to paying customers. I wonder what the context of this was? It really is. The tens of thousands of fans of the majority of clubs going to hundreds of matches every season can sod themselves so that a small number of teams can play a small number of games and the Hampden suits can name drop while pretending to be relevant. Can't wait for the next 'importance of the fan experience' crap to appear. I keep seeing this cretin is really a blue bigot at heart and there's nothing there to show he isn't. It's soul destroying stuff. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Reese Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 Thankfully common sense seems to be prevailing and it is here to stay. -8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 4 hours ago, PTR said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/var-going-nowhere-sfa-chief-33013334 Now we have the reasons why VAR is "here to stay" and it is complete gibberish, without embarrassment, or respect for the intelligence of fans. Interesting we have officials literally making stuff up in their heads and presenting it as fact. Those are fucking dreadful comments. Professional football is just fucking shite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 4 hours ago, PTR said: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/var-going-nowhere-sfa-chief-33013334 Now we have the reasons why VAR is "here to stay" and it is complete gibberish, without embarrassment, or respect for the intelligence of fans. Interesting we have officials literally making stuff up in their heads and presenting it as fact. Lots of highlights obviously, but my favourite part may be this: Quote Retired top-flight ref Willie Collum is the man now charged with improving VAR’s accuracy after replacing Crawford Allan as the SFA’s head of refereeing. Mulraney added: “Willie is coming in and we did a genuine international trawl for someone to come in and join us and he was the stand out candidate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowhereman Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 He seems to be saying that the rules of the game are different if you have VAR . Thought the rules were the same for all games whether VAR was there or not 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 10 minutes ago, Nowhereman said: He seems to be saying that the rules of the game are different if you have VAR . Thought the rules were the same for all games whether VAR was there or not I think what he’s (quite clumsily) saying is there’s things you might get away with without VAR because they’re hard to spot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingswellsRed Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 At the end of the day, the clubs could get rid of it if they wanted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 At the end of the day the fans could get rid easily. Voting with your feet will always win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingswellsRed Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 3 minutes ago, Hayseed said: At the end of the day the fans could get rid easily. Voting with your feet will always win. Absolutely. We have to do something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Any chance of them bringing that semi automatic offside in? VAR in the euros has been far better than it is in Scottish or English domestic football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 1 hour ago, JS_FFC said: Any chance of them bringing that semi automatic offside in? VAR in the euros has been far better than it is in Scottish or English domestic football. It's so much better. It's being brought in in England but the chances of it making it to Scotland any time soon are nil. I still think that the precision takes away from the point of offside, I don't see what advantage is gained by someone's knee being a couple of centimetres further forward. I feel I say this all the time but strikers (and indeed defenders) can no longer look along a line and know if the attacking player is on or offside. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted June 24 Share Posted June 24 On 21/06/2024 at 08:31, JS_FFC said: VAR in the euros has been far better than it is in Scottish or English domestic football. It shows that VAR can work. It's not an issue with the concept, just how it's been implemented for me. Yes there are financial and quality reasons for that, but it's still worth persevering with in my opinion. We have a League 2 level VAR operation in Scotland. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Reese Posted Friday at 20:54 Share Posted Friday at 20:54 On 13/06/2024 at 12:26, Kyle Reese said: Thankfully common sense seems to be prevailing and it is here to stay. Just wanted to point out how disappointing it is that so many posters on here are Christmas-voting turkeys … 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted yesterday at 09:44 Share Posted yesterday at 09:44 That’s a chicken. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago The automated offsides at the Euros are lightyears ahead of what we have in Scotland, but no one will ever convince me that this makes football better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted 50 minutes ago Share Posted 50 minutes ago 13 minutes ago, houston_bud said: The automated offsides at the Euros are lightyears ahead of what we have in Scotland, but no one will ever convince me that this makes football better. But, again, it comes down to offside being a black and white decision. No matter where you draw the (metaphorical or virtual) line, you’ll still have marginal decisions like this. You’re just changing where the margins are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted 41 minutes ago Share Posted 41 minutes ago 4 minutes ago, The Master said: But, again, it comes down to offside being a black and white decision. No matter where you draw the (metaphorical or virtual) line, you’ll still have marginal decisions like this. You’re just changing where the margins are. I'm not changing anything. I'm commenting that this makes watching football worse. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPAFKA Jersey 2 Posted 23 minutes ago Share Posted 23 minutes ago 22 minutes ago, The Master said: But, again, it comes down to offside being a black and white decision. No matter where you draw the (metaphorical or virtual) line, you’ll still have marginal decisions like this. You’re just changing where the margins are. I don’t think so. You could simplify the offside rule so easily so that there were no marginal decisions at all by introducing the simple concept of “clear daylight”. No lines required to be drawn. The VAR guy looks at it and if he can’t instantly see clear daylight then it’s onside. This also has the clearly positive effect of giving the benefit of any doubt to the attacking player which I assume is something we’d all want. It would also make for instant decisions and remove some of these nonsense offside decisions where no advantage has been gained at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Master Posted 21 minutes ago Share Posted 21 minutes ago Just now, TPAFKA Jersey 2 said: You could simplify the offside rule so easily so that there were no marginal decisions at all by introducing the simple concept of “clear daylight”. No lines required to be drawn. The VAR guy looks at it and if he can’t instantly see clear daylight then it’s onside. And how do they determine “clear daylight”? Even just eyeballing it will create marginal (and inconsistent) decisions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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