The 2000s - historic pictures from the first 25 years

[GordonS]

On 11/05/2024 at 20:24, buchan30 said:

On the Thai boys being rescued from that cave, every year we take our cubs scouts section to Fordell Firs, where they do caving and every year the leader tells us that a couple of the men who rescued them were scouts at one stage, and learned to get through the tunnels by doing the caving activities.

That's a good lesson. Those guys were absolute legends. Even the Thai Navy Seals quickly realised how skilled, capable and experienced they were and basically took their orders from them. Most people didn't realise that, even after they found the boys, their chances of survival weren't good. There's a brilliant short documentary about the rescue here: 

 

[GordonS]

52 minutes ago, BFTD said:

There have been a variety of Labour leaders who've had moments that people point to and say, "if only this hadn't happened, he'd have been Prime Minister".

I think we're kidding ourselves on here - until the Conservatives regress to widespread open degeneracy, England is never going to vote Labour anyway.

In the past 50 years one Labour leader has won a general election. 

Not from this century but...

[BFTD]

Neil Kinnock was openly trying not to be Prime Minister, surely. The biggest lesson New Labour seemed to learn was "shut up and don't do anything but smile".

[VictorOnopko]

Plenty of political options but this is one that makes my blood boil even now, ten years later, when I see it.

 

[tamthebam]

15 hours ago, BFTD said:

There have been a variety of Labour leaders who've had moments that people point to and say, "if only this hadn't happened, he'd have been Prime Minister".

I think we're kidding ourselves on here - until the Conservatives regress to widespread open degeneracy, England is never going to vote Labour anyway.

They're having a good crack at it right now