GordonS Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 On 11/05/2024 at 20:24, buchan30 said: On the Thai boys being rescued from that cave, every year we take our cubs scouts section to Fordell Firs, where they do caving and every year the leader tells us that a couple of the men who rescued them were scouts at one stage, and learned to get through the tunnels by doing the caving activities. That's a good lesson. Those guys were absolute legends. Even the Thai Navy Seals quickly realised how skilled, capable and experienced they were and basically took their orders from them. Most people didn't realise that, even after they found the boys, their chances of survival weren't good. There's a brilliant short documentary about the rescue here: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 52 minutes ago, BFTD said: There have been a variety of Labour leaders who've had moments that people point to and say, "if only this hadn't happened, he'd have been Prime Minister". I think we're kidding ourselves on here - until the Conservatives regress to widespread open degeneracy, England is never going to vote Labour anyway. In the past 50 years one Labour leader has won a general election. Not from this century but... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted May 21 Share Posted May 21 Neil Kinnock was openly trying not to be Prime Minister, surely. The biggest lesson New Labour seemed to learn was "shut up and don't do anything but smile". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VictorOnopko Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Plenty of political options but this is one that makes my blood boil even now, ten years later, when I see it. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 15 hours ago, BFTD said: There have been a variety of Labour leaders who've had moments that people point to and say, "if only this hadn't happened, he'd have been Prime Minister". I think we're kidding ourselves on here - until the Conservatives regress to widespread open degeneracy, England is never going to vote Labour anyway. They're having a good crack at it right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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