Public mass attacks

[Mark Connolly]

6 minutes ago, Raidernation said:

I have a Strat, is that sharp enough?

That's a child's guitar.

Gibson Les Paul FTW

[Venti]

1 hour ago, Raidernation said:

I have a Strat, is that sharp enough?

Better off busting a capo on someone ass.

[Crawford Bridge]

23 hours ago, Venti said:

Better off busting a capo on someone ass.

You're a nut. 

[mathematics]

On 02/05/2024 at 17:28, Mark Connolly said:

Depends how sharp your axe is

[SH Panda]

It's data Vs anecdotal evidence, violent crime on the whole (and murders especially) has been on long term decline since the 1970s.

There are some anomalies, the US saw a massive murder spike during / just avoid COVID but this has reverted to the mean.

Despite this, almost everyone believes crime, and violent crime in particular, is increasing.

It's a human urge to constantly be scanning for danger I guess.

Some knife victims, like those in London, will get far more attention. Glasgow had a serious knife problem for decades that was hardly touched on by the national media, neds are not front page victims. And to be fair to Glasgow it has significantly cut violent incidents through viewing violence as a public health issue rather than a law and order issue. Policy makers from around the world are going to Glasgow to learn from it, but it certainly isn't out the woods yet.

All violence is wrong, all violence is avoidable. The fact there's a lot term decline in the number of incidents is scant consolation to the victims.

Societies should be pursuing a zero violence goal.

[Busta Nut]

I have a small hatchet. 

[A Diamond For Me]

16 hours ago, Busta Nut said:

I have a small hatchet. 

You no buried it yet?  Let it go, man.

[AUcal]

On 04/05/2024 at 02:24, SH Panda said:

Some knife victims, like those in London, will get far more attention. Glasgow had a serious knife problem for decades that was hardly touched on by the national media, neds are not front page victims. And to be fair to Glasgow it has significantly cut violent incidents through viewing violence as a public health issue rather than a law and order issue. Policy makers from around the world are going to Glasgow to learn from it, but it certainly isn't out the woods yet.

Yup, agreed. The other part to this is that when knife crime is reported in London there is a clearly racist element to the reporting. It just so happens that some of young men involved in these regions happen to have black or brown skin.

This seems to be an important fact to give to the viewer for many media in the UK. The "black crime" narrative seems to persist very prominently in our culture. Nevermind that these guys come from very similar socioeconomic backgrounds to knife crime perpetrators across the country. The reason I bring this up is that we don't like talking about violent crime generally in the UK, unless there's an angle to vilify particular communities.

As you say, the high level of knife crime in Glasgow was rarely reported outside of Scotland at all - nevermind a narrative on the skin colour of the perpetrators (which is, of course, irrelevant to the crime).

Glasgow's more recent approaches to reducing knife crime wouldn't go down all that well in many areas of the UK. It would require conversations on the root causes of carrying a knife or being involved in incidents of violent crime - poverty, exposure to violence as a young person, exposure to domestic abuse, fear for safety due to inadequate policing, mental health health issues due to lack of effective public health resources.

The above approach would completely rubbish the notion (that I feel is still very strong in British society) that some groups, minorities, ethnicities are more likely to be involved in violent crime - which helps to win elections and sell newspapers. 

Essentially, while violent crime is down overall in Britain since the 70s / 80s, it will continue to blight some of our communities so long as the country as a whole refuses to deal in actual facts and tackle the root causes, instead focusing on tired illogical nonsense about the reasons.