DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 1 hour ago, coprolite said: https://www.imohamed4mp.co.uk/ Dangerous left wing ideology includes desire to "secure investment" and professes support for subversive organisations like the "sports centre" Leicester South: https://shockatadam.org/ Hardcore Leninist doctrine from this one: "As a small business owner in our community, I understand the hurdles of entrepreneurship firsthand. It's imperative that we implement clear and vigorous strategies to enhance our city's business landscape. I am dedicated to advocating for local businesses and revitalising our international reputation to position Leicester as a desirable hub for commerce." Blackburn : https://electionleaflets.org/leaflets/20007/ This commie is advocating tax cuts for small businesses and is bringing in disgustingky WOKE identity politics by acknowledging that public services have prioritised women and minorities and marginalised white working class males. The worst sort of cultural marxism. Birmingham - can't find much about. Citation required There's only one dog whistle here. Where does "genocide is wrong" fit into your peculiar worldview. As far as I was aware, none of them were politically aligned with Galloway. As you say - dog whistle shite of the worst kind 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 1 hour ago, Cheese said: This is disingenuous bullshit and you know it. That’s a thing - I take it that horrible little tit Akehurst won whatever shoo-in he was parachuted into? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 1 hour ago, tamthebam said: If half the Labour vote in those seats had held their nose and voted SNP then 3 of those wouldn't be. I suppose tactical voting only goes so far. It wouldn't have needed half to free at least two of the clubs. A tenth would have done it in Dumfries and Galloway. The fact that it ended up as a genuine 3 way split however, meant it wasn't entirely clear who should be holding their noses. Tactical voting is harder when the rivalries aren't entirely clear. Mind you, four thousand saw fit to vote Reform here too, so the Tories could perhaps have made a similar claim it they'd missed out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 2 hours ago, Jedi2 said: Labour's position on Gaza is a ceasefire, aid getting through properly to those who most need it, and a two state solution. No question that they took time to get there, but I'm not sure what else they could say other than the above. There are of course other conflicts and oppression of minorities going on around the world...things have gone very quiet on Ukraine recently for instance yet it is still very much rumbling on. There are major conflicts in Yemen, Sudan and Syria which we hear next to nothing about and where a lot of people are still dying There are what are cited as genocides happening in Afghanistan and the Turkish treatment of Kurds. Why weren't there 'Independent' electio candidates to campaign about these? At some point there will be an end to the Israeli offensive in Gaza..hopefully very soon, so that a process of rebuilding in the region can start and people lives can start to be rebuilt as well. We now have a party in govt whose stance on Gaza is, as far as I can see, the same as the SNP. Once the situation improves don't see how Starmer still has to be held to 'account' for this. Of major concern coming up is, is Trump pulling US military aid out of Ukraine which will clearly embolden Putin and weaken NATO (which Trump also plans to do). Defending the indefensible. No real surprise. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 49 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Defending the indefensible. No real surprise. Ceasefire, Aid and a two state solution...'indefensible'..okay. What is your position on Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, Turkish Kurds, Ukraine, and China...or do none of these 'matter'? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Just now, Jedi2 said: Ceasefire, Aid and a two state solution...'indefensible'..okay. What is your position on Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, Turkish Kurds, Ukraine, and China...or do none of these 'matter'? If Russia had done/was doing to Ukrainian women and children what Israel has done/is doing to Palestinian women and children Labour politicians would be fighting each other to get to the microphone first to condemn it unequivocally. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freedom Farter Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 3 hours ago, Jedi2 said: There are of course other conflicts and oppression of minorities going on around the world...things have gone very quiet on Ukraine recently for instance yet it is still very much rumbling on. There are major conflicts in Yemen, Sudan and Syria which we hear next to nothing about and where a lot of people are still dying We hear nothing from Starmer's Labour, sure, but we hear plenty from others. The NFP in France have Ukrainian debt cancellation in their manifesto. All Starmer has done is phoned Zelensky, a shallow PR move. With Yemen, Corbyn got UK weapons exports to Saudi halted. They were started up again after he resigned. No mainstream media journalist has raised the plight of Yemenis in recent years more than Owen Jones. On Sudan, independent socialist media covers efforts there, which centre around pressuring UAE (https://youtu.be/_jht_uy2Crw?si=TwlgRR_6U7uOYlI4). Syria is different as the largest external contributor to that conflict is Iran. The lack of UK relations with Iran leaves little to protest on as there's not much scope for pressuring Iran. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 An estimated 62000 Christians massacred in a continuing genocide in Nigeria by Islamist groups as well. No-one on the streets over that one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Those true colours always come out in the end. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 2 hours ago, carpetmonster said: That’s a thing - I take it that horrible little tit Akehurst won whatever shoo-in he was parachuted into? I am privy to his Facebook chat (don't ask why) - the Israeli state apologists were pushing him to get Labour to reject 2 state solution unless it comes with strings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: An estimated 62000 Christians massacred in a continuing genocide in Nigeria by Islamist groups as well. No-one on the streets over that one. That's whataboutery of the worst kind. Those that know me here know I have defended Israel on a regular basis but what they are doing now is indefensible. Edited July 6 by DeeTillEhDeh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 15 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: An estimated 62000 Christians massacred in a continuing genocide in Nigeria by Islamist groups as well. No-one on the streets over that one. Maybe we will need to wait a few years to find out the truth about that. https://www.declassifieduk.org/how-britains-labour-government-facilitated-the-massacre-of-biafrans-in-nigeria-to-protect-its-oil-interests/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 4 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: That's whataboutery of the worst kind. Those that know me here know I have defended Israel in a regular basis but whaf they are doing now is indefensible. Don't disagree that the actions of the Israeli govt are indefensible (and they are). The current situation has also led to a rise of anti-semitism though.Always important to separate the Israeli govt from the Jewish people, and it is the case (for some) that Gaza is the most 'important' issue in the world because of this. Yes, it should be important, and yes there absolutely should be an end to it and Netanyahu and his govt held to international account for it, but so should the actions of others in different parts ofbthe world as well. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 49 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: I am privy to his Facebook chat (don't ask why) - the Israeli state apologists were pushing him to get Labour to reject 2 state solution unless it comes with strings. You mean a puppet state? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 1 hour ago, Jedi2 said: An estimated 62000 Christians massacred in a continuing genocide in Nigeria by Islamist groups as well. No-one on the streets over that one. I'm guessing it's time to lock the thread now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 Angus Macdonald - what a forehead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/06/defeated-joanna-cherry-snp-nicola-sturgeon-social-agenda No mention of the fact that Cherry was beaten by P&B Edinburgh Branch favourite, Scott Arthur. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 33 minutes ago, scottsdad said: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/06/defeated-joanna-cherry-snp-nicola-sturgeon-social-agenda No mention of the fact that Cherry was beaten by P&B Edinburgh Branch favourite, Scott Arthur. Who could that possibly be? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MazzyStar Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 16 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Who could that possibly be? Which team does Scott Arthur support? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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