Miguel Sanchez Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 There's mintering afoot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glen Sannox Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 9 minutes ago, Freedom Farter said: This election we saw Liz Truss, Jacob Rees-Mogg and Richard Drax - a man who literally owns a Caribbean plantation - all voted out but its a working class woman from Broxburn who you reserved your ire for. You truly know where power lies in society. I was delighted to see the back of JRM, Shapps, Mordaunt, Fabricant etc etc. Are you suggesting that working class people from Broxburn should be free from someone’s ire? Her tear stained, woe is me, nonsense, should be a thing of ridicule. Ire shouldn’t be based on class. She made an absolute dog’s dinner of herself. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 28 minutes ago, Glen Sannox said: I was delighted to see the back of JRM, Shapps, Mordaunt, Fabricant etc etc. Are you suggesting that working class people from Broxburn should be free from someone’s ire? Her tear stained, woe is me, nonsense, should be a thing of ridicule. Ire shouldn’t be based on class. She made an absolute dog’s dinner of herself. The only person doing that right now is you. Stick to drinking puddles. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted July 9 Share Posted July 9 Bardell has always been a bit of a ‘main character’ but shes hardly the panto villain that Minter is making her out to be. There were some actual evil people emptied at the election and thats far more worthy of focus. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted July 11 Author Share Posted July 11 https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v46/n14/dani-garavelli/diary Article by Dani Gravelli on the election in Glasgow South West. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v46/n14/dani-garavelli/diary Article by Dani Gravelli on the election in Glasgow South West. good read 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 6 hours ago, ICTChris said: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v46/n14/dani-garavelli/diary Article by Dani Gravelli on the election in Glasgow South West. Reading that article just made me realise that someone as useless as Katrina Murray can get elected. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottR96 Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 5 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Reading that article just made me realise that someone as useless as Katrina Murray can get elected. What’s the script with her? She’s my new MP but I’d never heard of her before. She also made her Twitter page private during the campaign so was quite difficult to get a handle on her. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted July 11 Share Posted July 11 (edited) 47 minutes ago, ScottR96 said: What’s the script with her? She’s my new MP but I’d never heard of her before. She also made her Twitter page private during the campaign so was quite difficult to get a handle on her. I remember her from NUS Scotland days - utterly incompetent - only ever got anywhere because she played the disabled card. One of Murphy's acolytes who doesn't have an original thought inside her pea-brain. She stood in Dundee East at one point and was rightly laughed at during the hustings because she doesn't understand what she's talking about. Edited July 11 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 On 08/07/2024 at 15:19, Glen Sannox said: Hannah Bardell’s twitter breakdown is a thing of beauty. The most “woe is me” self indulgent bollocks ever. Dreadful Woman. Delighted she’s out on her ear. She's one of the best people I've met, so I know how to categorise you now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 Lowest turnout in UK general election since universal suffrage, report shows Great enthusiasm for Starmer and his Tory-Lite acolytes. But hey, he’s definitely got a mandate in Scotland! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/12/lowest-turnout-in-uk-general-election-since-universal-suffrage-report-shows 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 1 hour ago, Granny Danger said: Lowest turnout in UK general election since universal suffrage, report shows Great enthusiasm for Starmer and his Tory-Lite acolytes. But hey, he’s definitely got a mandate in Scotland! https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/jul/12/lowest-turnout-in-uk-general-election-since-universal-suffrage-report-shows While I agree that the turnout/result isnt a ringing endorsement of Starmer, I think the main reason for the awful turnout is that for the past couple of years almost everyone has been pretty sure of the result. I know a handful of people who couldn't vote because their postal votes didn't arrive on time, and none of them seemed particularly vexed about it. I was quite surprised to read that Labour's share of the vote was slightly higher in Scotland than England. As for a mandate, it's so subjective. It's easy for someone to argue that parties do/don't have one depending on their viewpoint. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 33 minutes ago, houston_bud said: I was quite surprised to read that Labour's share of the vote was slightly higher in Scotland than England. As for a mandate, it's so subjective. It's easy for someone to argue that parties do/don't have one depending on their viewpoint. Labour are claiming they’ve won a mandate in Scotland with 37 seats and 35.3% of the vote. In 2015 when the SNP won 56 seats and had 50% of the vote Labour said the SNP didn’t have a mandate. Yeah, that’s pretty subjective! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
houston_bud Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Labour are claiming they’ve won a mandate in Scotland with 37 seats and 35.3% of the vote. In 2015 when the SNP won 56 seats and had 50% of the vote Labour said the SNP didn’t have a mandate. Yeah, that’s pretty subjective! Did they? I don't remember anyone claiming that, but happy to be proved wrong. The arguments over 'mandates' in recent years in Scotland, have been about a second referendum. So, maybe on that specific point some people argued that there wasn't one. People who want a second referendum will argue there is a mandate, those who don't will argue that there isn't. Both can make a case for it. I'd argue that's subjective. No one serious would have argued that the SNP didn't have a mandate to make decisions. I don't like FPTP, but the results have given Labour the ability to make decisions. Edited July 12 by houston_bud 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted July 12 Share Posted July 12 23 minutes ago, houston_bud said: Did they? I don't remember anyone claiming that, but happy to be proved wrong. The arguments over 'mandates' in recent years in Scotland, have been about a second referendum. So, maybe on that specific point some people argued that there wasn't one. People who want a second referendum will argue there is a mandate, those who don't will argue that there isn't. Both can make a case for it. I'd argue that's subjective. No one serious would have argued that the SNP didn't have a mandate to make decisions. I don't like FPTP, but the results have given Labour the ability to make decisions. Excruciating Sarwar interview with Martin Geissler a day or two after the election. As someone posted earlier Geissler ended up asking Sarwar if he knew what a mandate was. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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