2426255 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 24 minutes ago, Bing.McCrosby said: Now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Do we think Derek Adams will take it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 On 24/06/2024 at 13:31, Bing.McCrosby said: We don't decide the budget, or have access to that information as we're not the sfa. We're fans discussing potential candidates. I know that the SFA paid Southampton £400k for George Burley. If they hadn't, he was getting sacked within a couple of months. The Southampton board couldn't believe their luck. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Moyes, clearly. But if he refuses....has to be Yogi. He only ever failed in Fife. Took ICT - a league 1 sjde now - to the Scottish Cup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 49 minutes ago, HuttonDressedAsLahm said: It’s insane, and yet entirely predictable. If the recruitment process was outsourced to a neutral European organisation, Moyes is the only Scot that would get remotely near an interview. I’m always staggered at the short-sighted and small-world view that is so prevalent in Scottish football. A shortlist is proposed of *checks notes* a list of managers with either zero international experience, or consistent and total failure to make a mark in any European competition. Yes - let’s pick them. The worst part is you absolutely know that the SFA list would be: 1) Moyes 2) McInnes Another good season for Docherty, and he’ll be in at number three. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raidernation Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Ronny “the roar” Deila I believe Jurgen Klopp is currently available? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuttonDressedAsLahm Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 12 hours ago, scottsdad said: Moyes, clearly. But if he refuses....has to be Yogi. He only ever failed in Fife. Took ICT - a league 1 sjde now - to the Scottish Cup. Can’t tell if this is serious 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogoftheskye Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Frank de Boer is available. His managerial record is a bit of a curates egg though I guess. 4 Eredivise titles with Ajax, but not much since then. Brief spell in charge of the Netherlands, where they won all their group games at Euro 2020, but lost to the Czechs in the last 16, and that was the end of that. No language barrier problems though, and he even spent 6 months playing here. Would he fancy it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Ferguson's Hat Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Jonathan 'Yoghurt' Hughes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Dave Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 I was a bit too young to fully understand the Vogts era (my first game was under him) however, I'm all aboard the hire someone foreign train 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willie adie Posted Thursday at 06:05 Share Posted Thursday at 06:05 Anyone that thinks that McInnes is a better option well gtf. That sleekit bstrd is one of the worst for having favourites look at the players he constantly re signs, The young players will get no look in with him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted Thursday at 07:02 Share Posted Thursday at 07:02 The 'Moyes could get Englishmen with Scottish grannies to declare for us' argument isn't the worst I've ever heard. He's a solid, solid Barclaysman who is well known down there and I would imagine respected by a lot of players. Whereas Clarke has always been an assistant and McInnes played for West Brom for 5 minutes about 30 years ago, they definitely wouldn't have the same pull as Moyes. With that said, we need to go down the foreign 'made a shite nation better than the sum of their parts route' IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleedingums Posted Friday at 01:08 Share Posted Friday at 01:08 On 25/06/2024 at 16:48, Gordon EF said: Do we think Derek Adams will take it? No: He’s just visited Cyprus and LET ME TELL YOU, the standard was 100x better….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted Friday at 03:10 Share Posted Friday at 03:10 21 hours ago, Willie adie said: Anyone that thinks that McInnes is a better option well gtf. That sleekit bstrd is one of the worst for having favourites look at the players he constantly re signs, The young players will get no look in with him. Thankfully the McInnes chat will be shut down when Kilmarnock get absolutely embarrassed by Cercle Brugge in the Europa League. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immcinto Posted Friday at 04:20 Share Posted Friday at 04:20 20 hours ago, TheScarf said: With that said, we need to go down the foreign 'made a shite nation better than the sum of their parts route' IMO. We need to pay a higher salary for our coach. We can't sign foreign players but we are allowed to sign foreign coaches. For a nation with 5M pop It would be insanity to not take advantage of this loophole to get someone at a high level. Set a budget of £1M+ . That puts us in the range of a serious candidate (higher end English Championship, midtable Bundesliga/Serie A). The only Scottish managers at that level are Moyes and Russell Martin. I doubt Martin would take it at this point and Moyes will would likely be out of range. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted Friday at 07:15 Share Posted Friday at 07:15 2 hours ago, immcinto said: We need to pay a higher salary for our coach. We can't sign foreign players but we are allowed to sign foreign coaches. For a nation with 5M pop It would be insanity to not take advantage of this loophole to get someone at a high level. Ireland went down that route and then away from it. Look where they are now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted Friday at 07:20 Share Posted Friday at 07:20 3 minutes ago, 2426255 said: Ireland went down that route and then away from it. Look where they are now. The last twice they’ve qualified for major tournaments was with an Italian manager and one from the UK. The record is demonstrably poorer when they hiring a coach from the Republic of Ireland. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immcinto Posted Friday at 07:35 Share Posted Friday at 07:35 16 minutes ago, 2426255 said: Ireland went down that route and then away from it. Look where they are now. Yep - look where they are now. They should have stuck with the foreign manager policy. Also, Ireland went down the "hire a fancy name fans have heard of" route. No need to do that, just hire a coach at a higher level. If there is a Scottish one at that level then fine. There isn't a viable Scottish option at that level though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2426255 Posted Friday at 07:42 Share Posted Friday at 07:42 18 minutes ago, JS_FFC said: The last twice they’ve qualified for major tournaments was with an Italian manager and one from the UK. The record is demonstrably poorer when they hiring a coach from the Republic of Ireland. That's a very black and white way of looking at it. Scotland's record is poorer with foreign managers than domestic, but I'm not making that point. A lot of things come into it other than Nationality. 5 minutes ago, immcinto said: Yep - look where they are now. They should have stuck with the foreign manager policy. Also, Ireland went down the "hire a fancy name fans have heard of" route. No need to do that, just hire a coach at a higher level. If there is a Scottish one at that level then fine. There isn't a viable Scottish option at that level though. As I've said above I assume you're not looking for a foreign manager particularly, just the best manager available who at this point is more likely not to be Scottish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
immcinto Posted Friday at 08:05 Share Posted Friday at 08:05 17 minutes ago, 2426255 said: As I've said above I assume you're not looking for a foreign manager particularly, just the best manager available who at this point is more likely not to be Scottish. Yes that's my point. However the big problem with going foreign is that SFA will be baised towards picking someone with name recognition, however irrelevant, to compensate. One of the reasons Vogts was chosen was due to his fame as a player. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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