GordonS Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, welshbairn said: Don't see why, they've got the electoral roll computerised so all they have to do is send it to the printers. They'll have to order more paper and ink in but there's 4 months till the election. Only people raising it so far as I can see are Unionist hacks, not surprising looking at the polls. The Electoral Management Board gave detailed evidence and this was covered in committee and chamber when the legislation was being drafted and debated. I think this stuff is much more complex than it looks, to ensure security and transparency, so I would take their word for it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Gordon EF said: Jesus. Just wikid it. Wendy Alexander was leader for about a year. Who knew eh? Nine months, but yeah, in my memory it was less than that. She contrived to lose her job over a donation for an election campaign in which she was the only candidate. The cause of her resignation looks pathetic by today's standards - a £950 contribution to her Labour leadership campaign from someone who was resident in Jersey, so not allowed to donate to a UK party. When it came to light she returned the money. The Electoral Commission concluded there wasn't a need to take action and the Scottish Parliament overwhelmingly voted not to suspend her, but she resigned anyway rather than have it hang over the summer. I don't think she was a leader but she had had a genuine understanding of and real interest in the nitty-gritty of social policy. She's much smarter than her brother and had a better understanding of Scottish politics. Scottish Labour have no-one even close to her level of ability now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, GordonS said: Nine months, but yeah, in my memory it was less than that. She contrived to lose her job over a donation for an election campaign in which she was the only candidate. The cause of her resignation looks pathetic by today's standards - a £950 contribution to her Labour leadership campaign from someone who was resident in Jersey, so not allowed to donate to a UK party. When it came to light she returned the money. The Electoral Commission concluded there wasn't a need to take action and the Scottish Parliament overwhelmingly voted not to suspend her, but she resigned anyway rather than have it hang over the summer. I don't think she was a leader but she had had a genuine understanding of and real interest in the nitty-gritty of social policy. She's much smarter than her brother and had a better understanding of Scottish politics. Scottish Labour have no-one even close to her level of ability now. Yeah, I thought it was her "Bring it on" chat about an Indy Ref that spooked Brown and ended up being the underlying cause of her removal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 So, since Devolution we've had 9 Labour leaders, 5 Tories, 4 Lib Dems, 3 SNP and the Greens have their fucked up Co-Convenor structure so who knows, but I think its 3. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 22 minutes ago, GordonS said: Nine months, but yeah, in my memory it was less than that. She contrived to lose her job over a donation for an election campaign in which she was the only candidate. The cause of her resignation looks pathetic by today's standards - a £950 contribution to her Labour leadership campaign from someone who was resident in Jersey, so not allowed to donate to a UK party. When it came to light she returned the money. The Electoral Commission concluded there wasn't a need to take action and the Scottish Parliament overwhelmingly voted not to suspend her, but she resigned anyway rather than have it hang over the summer. I don't think she was a leader but she had had a genuine understanding of and real interest in the nitty-gritty of social policy. She's much smarter than her brother and had a better understanding of Scottish politics. Scottish Labour have no-one even close to her level of ability now. That's the sort of corruption that your average Tory cabinet minister knocks out before lunch these days. Edited January 14, 2021 by Gordon EF 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 11 minutes ago, renton said: So, since Devolution we've had 9 Labour leaders, 5 Tories, 4 Lib Dems, 3 SNP and the Greens have their fucked up Co-Convenor structure so who knows, but I think its 3. The Lib Dems would surely have had more leaders if there was more, you know... Lib Dems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Incredibly looking like Sarwar is the least worst option here. Ballie, Brown or Murray the banter options. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewDon Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Baillie is the 'sacrifice everything for the Union' choice. I agree that Sarwar is their best bet, actually by a fair distance. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 The most staunch and on brand choice would be to get those Aberdeen councillors to rule by committee. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 47 minutes ago, renton said: So, since Devolution we've had 9 Labour leaders, 5 Tories, 4 Lib Dems, 3 SNP and the Greens have their fucked up Co-Convenor structure so who knows, but I think its 3. Ten individuals have held the top role in the Greens since devo either as sole leader or co-conveners/co-leaders. The party changed from a co-convener model to a co-leader model with their 2019 constitution. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Gordon EF said: It's like a list of managers through a club's golden era and then subsequent descent into mediocrity. Names we all remember at the beginning and then a long list of spectacularly short-lived disasters before the club finally accepts it's new found position and let's an absolute haddy sit in the job for years whilst achieving nothing except an incompetently managed decline. Why is this making me think about how Willie Rennie has been leader of the Scottish Lib Dems for 10 years, despite routinely polling in single digits and behind the Greens? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Me getting 7/8 right in the former Slab leaders quiz. This is pretty much my favourite gif. Can anyone remember the first use of it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 And....McBookies odds are in.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Gordon EF said: I once saw Henry McLeish in the toilets at Bayview, pishing with one hand and eating a pie with the other. His ability to multi-task alone probably puts him ahead of Leonard. I've got his autograph amongst a page of East Fife players of his time. Hope he was eating a pie with the other hand. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Stormzy said: Hopefully Labour actually appoint a staunch Unionist and they will start to regain some trust. Ian Murray for me. Support this plan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Monica Lennon would be the Kezia choice - good person, good intentions, someone who could be leader in at least 10 years but is much too young and inexperienced. She'd get chewed up by her own party. Jackie Baillie seems has a remarkable record holding her own seat and bucking the trend going on all around her. But at a national level I think she would mostly garner hostility. Ian Murray would be flatly rejected by the Corbynistas. It's hard to see past Sarwar. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Monica Lennon's probably at 4/1 because she's the only MSP left that anyone actually likes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speckled tangerine Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 22 minutes ago, welshbairn said: And....McBookies odds are in.. James Kelly???? The ghost of Keir Hardie would be a better value punt than that glaikit c**t. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G51 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Don't think it's a great sign that a political leader can be forced out by *potential* donors to his party. But then, we all know what Labour is at the minute don't we. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneteaminglasgow Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 24 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Monica Lennon's probably at 4/1 because she's the only MSP left that anyone actually likes I’ve met Neil Bibby and he was alright, although he’s a complete nobody so your point still stands. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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