BFTD Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 22 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: Labour say they won’t put more money into the NHS until there are ‘reforms’. The NHS is a state funded public service, what sort of ‘reforms’ do you carry out to improve that service without increased public funding? I’ve got ideas the direction this could be headed in but I hope I’m wrong. No, you're right. Nothing is worth doing unless there's a profit to be made. After fourteen years of the opposition winding public services down to increase private involvement, Labour's answer will be "let's increase private involvement, just not as much as the Tories would have done". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 20 hours ago, Sheas_cake said: Evidently neither do you. Scottish Child Payment is not universal. It requires an income-based benefit to be in place, eg UC, ESA and so on. There won't be any "Sengas" cutting about in Evoques claiming any of those benefits. Back in your box Evidently you also can't read. I have never claimed that it was universal. There may not be any Senga's but I know of at least one Chantelle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strichener Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 25 minutes ago, Sheas_cake said: It's cool man. I think we all know you made an arse of that and are now desperately trying to back up a day later. Folk in driving Evoques claiming Universal Credit indeed More putting words into my mouth, you are the only one that mentioned Universal Credit. -2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 33 minutes ago, strichener said: More putting words into my mouth, you are the only one that mentioned Universal Credit. Do you know we can all see the previous posts? Fair f**ks for going after that particular poster on his ignorance of the benefits system though. That must have been some rush. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 If only Mr Murray was a political representative of a party who could push through legislative change to assist in dealing with the epidemic at hand 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crùbag Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Labour are utter Knuts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTG_03 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 On 11/09/2024 at 15:24, diegomarahenry said: I used to listen to James O’Brien most mornings but since Labour got in, his constant fanboying has meant I can’t listen. 3 hours a day of justifying Starmers actions unbearable. The LBC political editor said on his show today, people will get fed up of Labour blaming the Tory’s for every decision they make soon and he’ll be under pressure. He made a comparison of the note left in the treasury after Brown lost the election of no money left and Sunak bringing it up after the last election. The political editor had to explain that Labour are making decisions (like keeping the two child cap, winter fuel) rather than other ones(higher taxes on windfalls etc) and the public will get tired of the excuses soon. He seems to have become blind to bad government pretty quickly. I used to listen occasionally but grew tired of his arrogance. I've seen a few clips of him bigging up Starmer so don't think I'll be tuning in again anytime soon Starmer got a real easy ride in the lead up to the election, all he had to do was say as little as possible and not make any gaffes as folk were desperate to get the Tories out. I think he's a poor politician and you're spot on saying the general public will get tired of him just blaming the Tories constantly. Decent chance the Tories(blue ones) will be back in next. Wonder if any of the slab politicians will find a backbone before then... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted Friday at 04:23 Share Posted Friday at 04:23 8 hours ago, Crùbag said: Labour are utter Knuts. Is this the pensioner cull we need to finally deliver Indy? I'll allow it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted Friday at 05:18 Share Posted Friday at 05:18 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted Friday at 05:22 Share Posted Friday at 05:22 On 11/09/2024 at 18:23, strichener said: Whilst you continue to ignore that the SNP continue to make choices on what to finance. I haven't heard yet but are they going to ignore parliament's will regarding free school meals for P6/7 or will they further reduce the funding for rewilding to pay for it? Choices to be made. and you continue to suggest that it is perfectly reasonable for the choices of another Parliament to inform such financial decisions. So full circle. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted Friday at 10:42 Share Posted Friday at 10:42 When a Parliament in an Independent Scotland has full fiscal autonomy then, and only then, will it be legitimate to judge their financial competency. Until then the forelock tuggers should shut the f**k up. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted Friday at 11:20 Share Posted Friday at 11:20 17 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: When a Parliament in an Independent Scotland has full fiscal autonomy then, and only then, will it be legitimate to judge their financial competency. Until then the forelock tuggers should shut the f**k up. Utter nonsense I'm afraid. We should absolutely highlight the context of cuts coming downstream from Westminster and Holyrood's limited borrowing powers and so on, but the idea that elected and unelected budget holders of figures running into 100's of millions and billions even shouldn't be judged on their competency or their decisions is a genuinely stupid thing to say. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pocketman Posted Friday at 12:13 Share Posted Friday at 12:13 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Cheese said: Utter nonsense I'm afraid. We should absolutely highlight the context of cuts coming downstream from Westminster and Holyrood's limited borrowing powers and so on, but the idea that elected and unelected budget holders of figures running into 100's of millions and billions even shouldn't be judged on their competency or their decisions is a genuinely stupid thing to say. speaking of nonsense - incoming ! Edited Friday at 12:14 by Pocketman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Brazil Forever Posted Friday at 12:27 Share Posted Friday at 12:27 (edited) 1 hour ago, Cheese said: Utter nonsense I'm afraid. We should absolutely highlight the context of cuts coming downstream from Westminster and Holyrood's limited borrowing powers and so on, but the idea that elected and unelected budget holders of figures running into 100's of millions and billions even shouldn't be judged on their competency or their decisions is a genuinely stupid thing to say. £59.7 Billion Plus Budget for 2024/25. Three former SNP First Ministers at each others throats. Three Pro Independence Parties unable to reach any kind of common agreement. SNP austerity very different from Labour or Tory austerity. If the Budget doesn't get approved which seems likely, will there be an early election? Edited Friday at 12:29 by Blue Brazil Forever 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted Friday at 13:17 Share Posted Friday at 13:17 Could folk stop quoting the contrarian edgelord. I've got him on ignore but keep seeing his pish because you are quoting his pish. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted Friday at 13:25 Share Posted Friday at 13:25 6 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Could folk stop quoting the contrarian edgelord. I've got him on ignore but keep seeing his pish because you are quoting his pish. Mmm...might need to be a bit more specific there, m9. (someone please quote this in case it's me) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SandyCromarty Posted Friday at 14:54 Share Posted Friday at 14:54 Todays Labour Party is so far removed from the principals and beliefs of the Party's Founding Fathers, Hardie, Maxwell, Jowett and MacDonald etc. You may argue that society has moved on but the working class is still around and still being shat on by the establishment of which this Labour Party seems to be aligning itself with. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Clavdivs Posted Friday at 15:05 Share Posted Friday at 15:05 Anyone heard anything recently from Anas"watch my lips,no Austerity under Labour" Sarwar ?,or is he just relying on Viceroy Murray to dutifully trumpet Westminster edicts ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Clavdivs Posted Friday at 15:07 Share Posted Friday at 15:07 12 minutes ago, SandyCromarty said: Todays Labour Party is so far removed from the principals and beliefs of the Party's Founding Fathers, Hardie, Maxwell, Jowett and MacDonald etc. You may argue that society has moved on but the working class is still around and still being shat on by the establishment of which this Labour Party seems to be aligning itself with. Once Blair ripped apart Clause 4 the game was a bogey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted Friday at 17:01 Share Posted Friday at 17:01 1 hour ago, I Clavdivs said: Once Blair ripped apart Clause 4 the game was a bogey. Pretty sure it was Kinnock who initially proposed that. Another despicable tosspot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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