DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 9 hours ago, Gordopolis said: Quite. He's 28. Okay nearly 29 - in 3 and 1/2 months time. The point is why not select him years ago and wait till this point? He's not exactly going to be hanging about long. I just find it bizarre. Edited August 28 by DeeTillEhDeh 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoP Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 32 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Okay nearly 29 - in 3 and 1/2 months time. The point is why not select him years ago and wait till this point? He's not exactly going to be hanging about long. I just find it bizarre. So say he makes the winning goal next week or shows a spark we’re sadly lacking up front contributing to a positive result Is it still bizarre then? Results are about the here and now Not some non tangible point in the future. Also at his age, if it does go well he’s involved in World Cup qualifying and potentially the finals at a good age to play Edited August 28 by MarkoP 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 10 hours ago, Gordopolis said: Quite. He's 28. If it works out he could play the next four years, two major tournaments and end up with 30 caps or more. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamntg Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 55 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Okay nearly 29 - in 3 and 1/2 months time. The point is why not select him years ago and wait till this point? He's not exactly going to be hanging about long. I just find it bizarre. Same age as Colin Hendry at his first call up, and he got 51 caps. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 I’m sure that the fact that Gauld is a former United player is not colouring the views of anyone. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 31 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I’m sure that the fact that Gauld is a former United player is not colouring the views of anyone. It isn't ya DAB. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Stewart Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Absolutely tremendous displays of Football Manager Brain in this thread: "International experience, familiarity with the system, coaching methods and preferences of teammates, existing personal relationships and continuity are a f**king waste of time, and there should be an overhaul of the squad every 2 years" "We should be calling up youth players to create a tartan Gareth Bale. Anyone over the age of 27 should be shot dead" It's like reverse Alan Hansen syndrome. "You ONLY win things with kids" 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lubo_blaha Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 We could make a half decent 11 made up of recent call-ups who haven’t made the squad for whatever reason. Gordon Patterson Hendry Tierney Hickey Armstrong Jack Ferguson Doig Brown Nisbet 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 2 hours ago, MarkoP said: So say he makes the winning goal next week or shows a spark we’re sadly lacking up front contributing to a positive result Is it still bizarre then? Results are about the here and now Not some non tangible point in the future. Also at his age, if it does go well he’s involved in World Cup qualifying and potentially the finals at a good age to play I just think he should have been called up far sooner than this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Scotch Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 13 hours ago, No_Problemo said: Has Christie continued to play deeper for Bournemouth at the start of this season? Christie could potentially complement Gilmour well in those deeper positions. I would definitely go with that against Portugal, but McTominay next to Gilmour against Poland to get an extra creative player further forward. The only real options to provide something a bit different behind the striker are Morgan and Gauld, so we might as well play one of them and see what happens. I guess we also have the option of Adams as the ten. I think I would be going something like this, ideally a different set up with more creativity within it will allow us to get much more from our best striker. Dykes can start against Portugal, when we should need more of an out ball. Gunn Ralston Porteous McKenna Robertson Gilmour McTominay Doak Gauld McGinn Adams Nice to help out the Gauld fan club too. This genuinely looks like the best team we could field barring injury at the moment and I think Clarke could well go for this formation if he is serious about trying to make the team more creative. However, I think Clarke will show loyalty to Christie by picking him from the start in place of Gauld and moving McGinn to CAM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Problemo Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 14 minutes ago, Butters Scotch said: This genuinely looks like the best team we could field barring injury at the moment and I think Clarke could well go for this formation if he is serious about trying to make the team more creative. However, I think Clarke will show loyalty to Christie by picking him from the start in place of Gauld and moving McGinn to CAM. Yeah, I agree with you - I just don’t think Christie is nearly creative enough at this level to play in those positions when the onus is on us to go and do something. McGinn and McTominay have their qualities but they aren’t outrightly creative either, so we need something a little different in there. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Scotch Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, No_Problemo said: Yeah, I agree with you - I just don’t think Christie is nearly creative enough at this level to play in those positions when the onus is on us to go and do something. McGinn and McTominay have their qualities but they aren’t outrightly creative either, so we need something a little different in there. Yeah he's a bit limited in his attacking play to go past players regularly but he gives you that defensive protection you need from a wide player and he does pop up with the odd important goal, he is critical against teams who are expected to dominate us. Personally, I would like to see him a little deeper and more central as he does at Bournemouth but let him get forward, bit of a box to box midfielder but we seem to have a surplus of those types unfortunately and one of the failures of Clarke was trying to fit them all in at once which lead to a woeful attack. What is clear though is that we need an injection of pace in the forward areas, the likes of Conway and Doak will be vital in this next campaign IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 hours ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: Okay nearly 29 - in 3 and 1/2 months time. The point is why not select him years ago and wait till this point? He's not exactly going to be hanging about long. I just find it bizarre. Because we have had too many players better than him available over several years to justify selecting him and in this window we don't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Twelve Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 10 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: Because we have had too many players better than him available over several years to justify selecting him and in this window we don't. Aye, losing 4-0 to Russia, John Fleck and Olly Burke in the starting 11 - glory days! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_binos Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Got a ticket available for Poland home and Portugal home. Shoot me a DM if interested. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 6 minutes ago, Alan Twelve said: Aye, losing 4-0 to Russia, John Fleck and Olly Burke in the starting 11 - glory days! When the squad was selected for that game Gauld had played four times for second tier Farense, off the back of managing 6 games in 5 months for Hibs the previous season. Not that it's a direct comparison anyway as he was playing as a striker which isn't Gauld's position, but Oli Burke is obviously mince and yet he'd had a considerably more successful Scottish Premiership loan spell with Celtic in the same 5 months Gauld was at Hibs, then played more games at a higher level than Gauld at the start to the 19/20 season prior to that Russia game between West Brom in the English Championship and Deportivo Alaves in La Liga. Gauld's performances at club level at that time weren't justifying selection and then when his club career did improve over the following years so did Scotland's performances and results, a time which also saw the emergence of other players younger than Gauld into the squad in both deep & attacking midfield positions such as Billy Gilmour and Lewis Ferguson, in addition to already having more depth there than any other area of the park. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Twelve Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 17 minutes ago, Dunning1874 said: When the squad was selected for that game Gauld had played four times for second tier Farense, off the back of managing 6 games in 5 months for Hibs the previous season. Not that it's a direct comparison anyway as he was playing as a striker which isn't Gauld's position, but Oli Burke is obviously mince and yet he'd had a considerably more successful Scottish Premiership loan spell with Celtic in the same 5 months Gauld was at Hibs, then played more games at a higher level than Gauld at the start to the 19/20 season prior to that Russia game between West Brom in the English Championship and Deportivo Alaves in La Liga. Gauld's performances at club level at that time weren't justifying selection and then when his club career did improve over the following years so did Scotland's performances and results, a time which also saw the emergence of other players younger than Gauld into the squad in both deep & attacking midfield positions such as Billy Gilmour and Lewis Ferguson, in addition to already having more depth there than any other area of the park. Proof that research beats sarcasm every time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrestersKTID Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Gauld was never getting in the team with the midfielders we had in last 4/5 years. Now with Mcgregor away, Armstrong not involved and Mclean you'd think on the way out it makes sense to include him. Ideally he'd have been involved by now but no reason he can't make a difference. We've done this in the past with likes of Kevin Mcdonald and Tom Cairney, John Fleck guys who got to a good level later on in their careers. Not that they impacted the squad much. Doak is the one i'm hoping to see, Hopefully return to the 4-3-3 that worked so well with Killie. Gunn Johnston Porteous Hanley Robertson Gilmour Mcginn Mctominay Doak Adams Morgan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 I've had an email offering tickets in the Portugal end for €7.50 if anyone's interested. I tried to join their supporters club before the Euros in case I wanted tickets, and didn't think it had worked, but it appears it did. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherrif John Bunnell Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 A throwback to the days when Channel 5 would pick up broadcast rights to games about 25 mins before kick off. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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