Cosmic Joe Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 This dreel that the thread has wandered up, isnae the most interesting 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boghead ranter Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Prepare to be blown away by Newtongrange, which has the full complement of 1st through to 10th streets. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 11 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I think we've established that given the time he spends on here. That presumes I’m amused by this place…sometimes it’s just like watching a car wreck 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Bairnardo said: How the f**k is there so many more 2nd and 3rds than 1sts? 1 hour ago, virginton said: Presumably the 1st Street as the most prestigious gets renamed after one of their gubbins, usually slaveowning and white supremacist heroes. Then they can't replace it because that fucks with the logic of the grid system. Semi-correct…the most often used names for renaming 1st Street seem to be MLK Jr., Martin Luther King Jr. and Cesar Chavez. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Bairnardo said: How the f**k is there so many more 2nd and 3rds than 1sts? I thought that rather than a 1st you might have a "main" street? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TxRover Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Grant228 said: I thought that rather than a 1st you might have a "main" street? The usual process was the town was laid out in a corner of the junction of two main roads. One would sometimes be labeled Main Street, and the other was often named for the town or a city it connected to (Watagua Road or Denton Highway). Then streets in one direction, such a south from the east-west road, would be named for trees or locals, the other direction, such as east of the other road, would be 1st through whatever, often 10th. In some places, roads in one direction would be named “Street” and the other way named “Avenue”, hence places with locations like the corner of 3rd and 7th…where local convention dictates if the street or avenue is named first. In other places, if they built on both sides of the “main street” (or Main Street) they would call one side Street and the other Avenue. The third weird one is NE/SE/NW/SW, where you can have the same house number in four locations…such as 101 NW 1st, 101 SW 1st, etc. This happened with building all around the two main streets, and in some places can reach numbers in the mid 100’s+ (144th Street in Oklahoma City comes to mind). The alternative form is labeling a street E/W or N/S before the street name, base upon its position for one of the main roads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 7 hours ago, TxRover said: The usual process was the town was laid out in a corner of the junction of two main roads. One would sometimes be labeled Main Street, and the other was often named for the town or a city it connected to (Watagua Road or Denton Highway). Then streets in one direction, such a south from the east-west road, would be named for trees or locals, the other direction, such as east of the other road, would be 1st through whatever, often 10th. In some places, roads in one direction would be named “Street” and the other way named “Avenue”, hence places with locations like the corner of 3rd and 7th…where local convention dictates if the street or avenue is named first. In other places, if they built on both sides of the “main street” (or Main Street) they would call one side Street and the other Avenue. The third weird one is NE/SE/NW/SW, where you can have the same house number in four locations…such as 101 NW 1st, 101 SW 1st, etc. This happened with building all around the two main streets, and in some places can reach numbers in the mid 100’s+ (144th Street in Oklahoma City comes to mind). The alternative form is labeling a street E/W or N/S before the street name, base upon its position for one of the main roads. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) The BBC dropping the 'City' suffix from Brechin City when all the other clubs retain theirs: Probably worse is their League 2 table (that can happily fit in "Bonnyrigg Rose") containing "Annan Athletic" and then just "Forfar" Edited March 23, 2023 by Hedgecutter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarley Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Hedgecutter said: The BBC dropping the 'City' suffix from Brechin City when all the other clubs retain theirs: Probably worse is their League 2 table that contains "Annan Athletic" and then just "Forfar". Obviously some sort of bias against Angus by the BBC here. Angusism? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Swarley said: Obviously some sort of bias against Angus by the BBC here. Angusism? Perhaps Cityism too seeing as Elgin have also lost their suffix. Ayr United just being "Ayr" blows any "maybe it's a space thing?" out of the waters. It's the inconsistency that's grinding my gears. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 12 hours ago, Bairnardo said: How the f**k is there so many more 2nd and 3rds than 1sts? Is it not the Main St / 1st Street split the top spot. Irvine has made an effort with a First, Second & Third Avenue, But non of this American digits nonsense, properly written out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Steele Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 8 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: Probably worse is their League 2 table (that can happily fit in "Bonnyrigg Rose") containing "Annan Athletic" and then just "Forfar" Trade Descriptions made us drop 'Athletic' when Irvine and Harkins were playing. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarley Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: Perhaps Cityism too seeing as Elgin have also lost their suffix. Ayr United just being "Ayr" blows any "maybe it's a space thing?" out of the waters. It's the inconsistency that's grinding my gears. Strongly worded email to the Head of the BBC required. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgecutter Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) On the subject of street names, I'd like to nominate generic, irrelevant, inventively bankrupt names in new housing developments. Elm Place, The Firs, The Rowans, Osprey Heights* etc etc, particularly when there aren't any of those things nearby. Can't be too hard to name them after something found locally, such as one of the old farms, or the woodland they ripped up to build over. *there's one of these in Inverurie that I'm really hoping was an in-joke nod to Still Game. Edited March 23, 2023 by Hedgecutter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: On the subject of street names, I'd like to nominate generic, irrelevant, bottom of the barrel street names in new housing developments. Elm Place, The Rowans etc etc, particularly when there aren't any of those things nearby. Can't be too hard to give them something found locally, as easily found on old maps. Irvine has an estate, always had 9 streets, named after Scottish lochs in alphabetical order (Carron, Dunvegan, Etive, Leven, Lomond, Maree, Morar, Rannoch & Shiel). After about 40 years of this a new street was being built where school used to be. It was named Tay Place, After the Council committee argued for about an hour over the pronunciation of somewhere like Tarbhaidh or Tarbhaidh or something similar. The decision being if we can't agree and say it right no-one else will. Edited March 23, 2023 by MEADOWXI 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 17 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: On the subject of street names, I'd like to nominate generic, irrelevant, inventively bankrupt names in new housing developments. Elm Place, The Firs, The Rowans, Osprey Heights* etc etc, particularly when there aren't any of those things nearby. Can't be too hard to name them after something found locally, such as one of the old farms, or the woodland they ripped up to build over. *there's one of these in Inverurie that I'm really hoping was an in-joke nod to Still Game. In our community, all street names are after religious characters. I'm in Elijah (steady on Kenneth). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hk blues Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, MEADOWXI said: Irvine has an estate, always had 9 streets, named after Scottish lochs in alphabetical order (Carron, Dunvegan, Etive, Maree, Morar, Leven, Lomond, Rannoch & Shiel). After about 40 years of this a new street was being built where school used to be. It was named Tay Place, After the Council committee argued for about an hour over the pronunciation of somewhere like Tarbhaidh or Tarbhaidh or something similar. The decision being if we can't agree and say it right no-one else will. Where I used to live there were 6 multis, 3 blocks in each. They were named after golf courses in alphabetical order. Funnily enough, the most famous one, St Andrews, wasn't included. The roads around were also named after courses. The area was originally a golf course before the scheme was built. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, hk blues said: Where I used to live there were 6 multis, 3 blocks in each. They were named after golf courses in alphabetical order. Funnily enough, the most famous one, St Andrews, wasn't included. The roads around were also named after courses. The area was originally a golf course before the scheme was built. ^^^ Ardler laddie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Kirkton in Dundee has a strange mix of north of Scotland (Beauly Av, Helmsdale Av), the Lake District (Keswick, Ulverston and Coniston Terrace, Ambleside Terrace and Gardens, Derwent Avenue) and a little Forres enclave (avenue and crescent). Nae wonder they riot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 36 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said: On the subject of street names, I'd like to nominate generic, irrelevant, inventively bankrupt names in new housing developments. Elm Place, The Firs, The Rowans, Osprey Heights* etc etc, particularly when there aren't any of those things nearby. Can't be too hard to name them after something found locally, such as one of the old farms, or the woodland they ripped up to build over. *there's one of these in Inverurie that I'm really hoping was an in-joke nod to Still Game. It screams horrible newbuild estate when you see a group of streets named after trees. Can also add a seeming aversion to the more normal street/road/avenue kind of terminology...the more Gates, Wynds, Groves, Walks and so on there are the more likely a place is to have been thrown up by a Barratt tribute act in the last 20 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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