xbl Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Kilt, do you really -truly- believe all that mumbo jumbo about making offerings to spiritual planetary beings? If you do, then why? Because that is one thing that science has successfully discredited. There is no planetary god. There is no need for incantations and offerings. If you don't and you just do it for fun, why? Why bother with all the mumbo jumbo at all? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking Decency Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Peasedown St John Ah okay, other side of Brizzol. I used to work in Aztec West, what a nightmare that was. So that side of the city I guess you were a gashead? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking Decency Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 WTF?!?!?! I was expecting a Wurzels You Tube clip....what a let down.... Give it a listen! He's my favourite producer/dj ever. You might like it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 (edited) Hey, it's not the end of the world buddy! It's just the end of an era for me, that's all. All the events of growing up and all that. The high school days, getting into uni, the nights out, first girlfriends the lot. Good times B) Edited May 31, 2009 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Ah okay, other side of Brizzol. I used to work in Aztec West, what a nightmare that was.So that side of the city I guess you were a gashead? I was only there about a year (2000-01) and was only 8/9 years old. I don't really remember much of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking Decency Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 I was only there about a year (2000-01) and was only 8/9 years old. I don't really remember much of it. Ah okay, sorry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Ah okay, sorry Have to say I'd like to go back down that way sometime, I haven't been back since we moved away. Bath was a lovely city. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Kilt, do you really -truly- believe all that mumbo jumbo about making offerings to spiritual planetary beings? If you do, then why? Because that is one thing that science has successfully discredited. There is no planetary god. There is no need for incantations and offerings.If you don't and you just do it for fun, why? Why bother with all the mumbo jumbo at all? Right, it's late on and I'm sunburnt (gloat opportunity) and actually a bit tired. However, as it is important to me personally, I'l try to explain..... Yes, I do believe that if I respect nature and this planet where we all have to exist, I can make some small difference. Yes, I do believe that if I respect people and the other animals/insects/life forms who share this planet with me, I can enrich them in some way, whether it be by giving some support or information or whatever, then that's all to the good. I had the privilege of a common spider crawl up my leg this afternoon. I held him in my hands and marvelled at the complexity of his structure and existence. He has a right to life just as we have. The invocations, incense, candles, music, peaceful chill-out stuff is proven to lower the possibility of heart attacks, stress and all the other pressurised shit we have to consider. All I can offer, as another human being, is a non-judgemental, healing process - total relaxation, incense, candles, peaceful aura's and kindred, spiritual tenderness. If you want to come and chill out at mine, feel free and I'll do my best to relieve your cynicism. Failing that, I offer a morning invocation for you..... A Morning PrayerOh Great Goddess Bless this day Keep me safe and whole Oh Great Goddess Bless my path Help me to act on thy wisdom Oh Great Goddess Bless my family All life on this Earth ~ Abby Willowroot © 1999 Blessed Be, xbl! Kilt 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naught A Chance Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 The fact that every guy at Edinburgh Uni seems to look identical ! Also Lzreid ( i think ) has question that was unanswerd on a pervious page 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 31, 2009 Share Posted May 31, 2009 Oh ffs insects spread disease and have no 'right' to live. If it were up to Kilt we'd still be covered in woad and dying of dysentry by the time we hit 3 months of age. Mankind's progress has always been acheived by subjugating nature and its stupid bloody animals to our own devices. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 And it's still stiflingly hot and humid in here. The Grey Ghost is making me jealous with tales of breezes and chill. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbl Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 (edited) Yes, I do believe that if I respect nature and this planet where we all have to exist, I can make some small difference. And thats all fine (all of your post). Nothing wrong with that, and nothing The Gray Ghost disagrees with. However, do you actually believe the crucial bits, about the spirit of Gaia and all that? "Making offerings" and all that? Edited to add, petty nag. The Gray Ghost just had to get up to adjust his fan. Annoyingly enough, it was just slightly pointing the wrong way so that The Gray Ghosts face wasn't quite getting the full benefit. All sorted now though. Its a hard life! Edited to add, it should be emphasised that in a lot of ways The Gray Ghost shares Kilts philosophy. The Gray Ghost is very hot on the subject of animal rights, and is fall for letting animals have their space, and humans theirs. The Gray Ghost is known to be absolutely heartbroken over random animal deaths, and refuses to kill animals when he doesn't have to. The Gray Ghost also tries to do his bit for the environment. However, The Gray Ghost does this without having to have a religion, and without festivals and offerings. But the above doesn't apply to slugs. Their space is out in the wild, not in The Gray Ghosts garden. The Gray Ghost is taking pleasure in clearing them out of The Gray Ghosts garden, for after all, do plants not also count as living things to be protected and helped? Edited June 1, 2009 by The Gray Ghost 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Oh ffs insects spread disease and have no 'right' to live. If it were up to Kilt we'd still be covered in woad and dying of dysentry by the time we hit 3 months of age. Mankind's progress has always been acheived by subjugating nature and its stupid bloody animals to our own devices. Bearing in mind what a shite job we've made of it so far, since industrialisation, capitalism, slavery and exploitation, a return to the simpler way of living would be a vast improvement. Not all insects spread disease and a bunch of the Hunnage have Swine flu - work that one out! We are the dominant life species on this planet and that is a feck-off responsibility and we're making a complete arse of it. Nukes, pollution, inflation, disease, starvation, wars........oh ye gods....it's just too soul destroying. No, Paganism is not the 'Magic Cure' to all ills, but at least it gives me and mine some peace of mind and respite from this petty, tortuous existence..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 And thats all fine (all of your post). Nothing wrong with that, and nothing The Gray Ghost disagrees with. However, do you actually believe the crucial bits, about the spirit of Gaia and all that? "Making offerings" and all that? Yes - respect your environment and it will respect you. Or to put it in simpler terms - dinnae shite on yer ain doorstep! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breaking Decency Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Oi Kilt, check your PMs and get it edited! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Bearing in mind what a shite job we've made of it so far, since industrialisation, capitalism, slavery and exploitation, a return to the simpler way of living would be a vast improvement. Not all insects spread disease and a bunch of the Hunnage have Swine flu - work that one out! We are the dominant life species on this planet and that is a feck-off responsibility and we're making a complete arse of it. Nukes, pollution, inflation, disease, starvation, wars........oh ye gods....it's just too soul destroying. No, Paganism is not the 'Magic Cure' to all ills, but at least it gives me and mine some peace of mind and respite from this petty, tortuous existence..... Despite the evils of progress global life expectancy has done nothing but increase since, well, civilisation itself. Iron Age citizens could expect to live to 18, on average. I actually can't reason as to how you can see such progress as bad: its blitheringly obvious that the world now is at its richest and most advanced state known. FFS you even managed to get a laptop... -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Yes - respect your environment and it will respect you.Or to put it in simpler terms - dinnae shite on yer ain doorstep! Or don't and nothing will actually happen anyway. All organisms are limited by space, toxic by-products are, heh, a natural occurence. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stainrod's Fedora Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 My PTTTGOYN is Britain's Got Talent. Contestants professing to camera how honoured they would be to perform in front of the 'Queen'. It's like we're in the 15th century and poor people are required to dance to entertain royalty. It makes me sick. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 Or don't and nothing will actually happen anyway. All organisms are limited by space, toxic by-products are, heh, a natural occurence. I'd take that on board usually, but, ironically, if we were to respect our environment like I wish we would, Stan and John, the parkies at Barshaw, would be out of a job because they'd have no litter to pick up. It's a conundrum and no mistake! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 I'm bloody roastin! No way am I sleeping any time soon 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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