Madeleine Mccann Missing Girl

[I'm Brian]

16 hours ago, The OP said:

Shannon Matthews’ mother was not “dragged over hot coals” until she was found to have falsified her claims. There was less coverage and a lower reward for finding Shannon, that is true and is evidenced. It is also true that the abduction was a hoax which makes the article about Karen Matthews’ turmoil and bravery in the face of unfair questioning grimly ironic. 

My post was aimed at the asinine comments about how anyone poorer would have been jailed for neglect which always come up when this topic comes up but are never backed up by proper evidence. You seemed to get that initially.

And someone being murdered with a clear motive in an area of high crime is deemed less newsworthy than a whodunnit involving a well off person. What an amazing revelation. Although it is quite ironic that the Mail are the ones being slagged when they were at the forefront of pushing the largely ignored murder of Stephen Lawrence as a major news story. And if you’re from an area of high crime and there is a clear motive never fear - you’ll still hit the headlines if you get shot in a busy ASDA car park or outside a primary school.

I still get it as I have never claimed otherwise. The McCann's should be given jail time for neglect, and anyone else in a similar case should as well. In the eyes of the law everyone is equal. 

What I am claiming is that, depending on your perceived social status is how you are treated by the media.  The initial reporting of the McCann case was heavy on how good a family they were, what a lovely leafy Leicestershire village they lived in. Painting them as the perfect family, when in reality they neglected their children to the point where one was allegedly abducted.

Regardless of the outcome of the Matthews case Karen Matthews was instantly portrayed as a scumbag simply because of her social standing. She was portrayed as a slag who came from an area of high deprivation. Questions were instantly asked of her that were never and have never been asked in the McCann case.

One child's life is just as important as any other, yet the press deemed one case worthy of four times the amount of stories of the other. Surely you have to ask yourself why that is and there is only one  conclusion you can logically come too.

Yes you are right about the Mail re Stephen Lawrence. Although in that case he was an innocent boy at a bus stop who was murdered by a local gang of racists, because of the colour of his skin. It's just a shame they don't do it every time for example in the McCann case, or even outed Saville as a paedophile as it was common knowledge within the establishment. There may be headlines, but they will quickly disappear, and 11 years on we are still seeing the poor McCanns in the press  telling us about their self inflicted nightmare.

We're going to need to agree to disagree here, but it is demonstrably true that if you are a white middle class professional in the eyes of the press you are probably not guilty and give you an easy ride, but if you are a council estate unemployed benefit claimant you are probably guilty and will have every aspect of your life thrown into question.

[Silverton End]

1 hour ago, The Moonster said:

It does seem a ridiculous amount of money for 1 missing child, but without context of what is spent on others it's hard to say just how ridiculous it is.

Very true.

A missing child usually also commands a higher profile investigation too.

A parallel I suppose could be the Ben Needham disappearance back in 1991. The wee toddler who went missing on the Greek island. Still newsworthy as recent as 2017 when traces of blood were found on a bit of sandal.

The findings strengthened the belief of Forensic experts that he was killed on the day he went missing & is buried on Kos.

ETA - It's reckoned that around £1m has been spent searching for Ben. 

 

Edited March 12, 2019 by Silverton End

[GordonD]

2 hours ago, nsr said:

That money could have kept Rangers alive a little longer.

There are similarities in the two cases - the Rangers fans left them on their own for the last ten minutes of every match and went to the pub.

[The Elephant & Castle]

No sure what's worse..shoe-horning a post about Rangers/deid/alive into a thread which has f**k all tae do with them, or actually replying tae a shoe-horned post about Rangers/deid/alive 

 

[superbigal]

Why did the social not take the other kid away? Do statistics not show in the event of neglect this is the usual action?

[Joe Terrapin]

So, is 'The OP' Gerry or Kate? How can anyone defend these fuckers. I truly believe they had a hand in the disappearance/murder/accidental death of Madeline. The only reason they weren't caught is due to the incompetence of the Portuguese Police. I don't buy the kidnapping by a stranger theory. How did they get in , why did they pick the oldest of the kids/the one most likely to make noise/struggle etc. Who leaves a toddler alone in a room whilst they go drinking? Who leaves a toddler in the company of two babies to go drinking?

Went on holiday with my 8 month old daughter a number of years ago. She would sleep for a couple of hours in the afternoon. After careful consideration we would put her in the apartment(the door of which we could see from the pool) and we had a baby monitor on. Towards the end of the holiday after the usual couple of hours and no sound from the monitor I went to the room and my daughter was awake and crying. Turns out the battery in the monitor had failed. I felt really guilty thinking the wee  one had woken up crying with no one around. We didn't do this again.

I truly believe that the money spent by the UK Police was done so as they probably believed they could implicate these two b*****ds and bring them to justice.

As an aside I know Gerry McCann's sister and she is a truly horrible individual and would appear that her brother is ten times that.

Edited March 13, 2019 by Joe Terrapin

[Ned Nederlander]

59 minutes ago, Joe Terrapin said:

How can anyone defend these fuckers.

Ken, leaving the kids for 30 minutes at a time was/is inexcusable - they're fucking paying for it now though

59 minutes ago, Joe Terrapin said:

we would put her in the apartment(the door of which we could see from the pool) and we had a baby monitor on.

That's no really a stretch from what they were doing to be fair!

59 minutes ago, Joe Terrapin said:

Towards the end of the holiday after the usual couple of hours and no sound from the monitor I went to the room and my daughter was awake and crying.

Christ on a fucking bike - 2 fuckin' hours !! C'nt!

Edited March 13, 2019 by Ned Nederlander

[Derry Alli]

Has anyone listened to the "Maddie" podcast and if so, is it worth a listen? 

[Busta Nut]

Who does it?

[Barry Ferguson's Hat]

Ricky Gervais, Stephen Merchant and Karl Pilkington. 

[Derry Alli]

16 minutes ago, Busta Nut said:

Who does it?

9podcast (I think).

 

Edit : subscribed to it. Will listen to a couple episodes tonight.

Edited March 13, 2019 by Dele

[Busta Nut]

15 minutes ago, Barry Ferguson's Hat said:

Ricky Gervais, Stephen Merchant and Karl Pilkington. 

I'd listen.

[Zen Archer (Raconteur)]

Yet not a fucking peep from the c**t about the £11.75m that's been 'SPAFFED' on the McCanns.

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Child sex abuse victims have criticised Boris Johnson for claiming police funding was being "spaffed up the wall" investigating historical allegations.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47560192

[Mark Connolly]

On 3/12/2019 at 13:06, The Moonster said:

It does seem a ridiculous amount of money for 1 missing child, but without context of what is spent on others it's hard to say just how ridiculous it is.

Hiring out a golf course for the day for the Annual Met Maddie Invitational can't be cheap.

[D.A.F.C]

Was speaking to someone about this today who listened to the podcast on Spotify.

Apparently the group on holiday were all doctors or medical people and regularly left their kids together to sleep while they went out. It’s possible that she was given something to relax but took ill and died. The Portuguese chief officer was sacked for trying to bring evidence to light including a car getting identified by sniffer dogs. The parents were controlling what the police could investigate according to him.

Apologies if this is all well known but it makes sense to me. If this is true then they should get locked up for life. 

 

Edited March 13, 2019 by D.A.F.C

[Busta Nut]

On this thread, over the last few pages at least, folk don't seem to believe anything. She must have evaporated.

[welshbairn]

8 hours ago, Joe Terrapin said:

So, is 'The OP' Gerry or Kate? How can anyone defend these fuckers. I truly believe they had a hand in the disappearance/murder/accidental death of Madeline. The only reason they weren't caught is due to the incompetence of the Portuguese Police. I don't buy the kidnapping by a stranger theory. How did they get in , why did they pick the oldest of the kids/the one most likely to make noise/struggle etc. Who leaves a toddler alone in a room whilst they go drinking? Who leaves a toddler in the company of two babies to go drinking?

Went on holiday with my 8 month old daughter a number of years ago. She would sleep for a couple of hours in the afternoon. After careful consideration we would put her in the apartment(the door of which we could see from the pool) and we had a baby monitor on. Towards the end of the holiday after the usual couple of hours and no sound from the monitor I went to the room and my daughter was awake and crying. Turns out the battery in the monitor had failed. I felt really guilty thinking the wee  one had woken up crying with no one around. We didn't do this again.

I truly believe that the money spent by the UK Police was done so as they probably believed they could implicate these two b*****ds and bring them to justice.

As an aside I know Gerry McCann's sister and she is a truly horrible individual and would appear that her brother is ten times that.

The hypocrisy in this post is staggering.  

[sjc]

On 12/03/2019 at 09:16, Silverton End said:

The Scotland Yard investigation into the disappearance has cost £11.75m so far.

 

They could have cloned Maddie for half that, FFS!

[hk blues]

21 hours ago, Joe Terrapin said:

So, is 'The OP' Gerry or Kate? How can anyone defend these fuckers. I truly believe they had a hand in the disappearance/murder/accidental death of Madeline. The only reason they weren't caught is due to the incompetence of the Portuguese Police. I don't buy the kidnapping by a stranger theory. How did they get in , why did they pick the oldest of the kids/the one most likely to make noise/struggle etc. Who leaves a toddler alone in a room whilst they go drinking? Who leaves a toddler in the company of two babies to go drinking?

Went on holiday with my 8 month old daughter a number of years ago. She would sleep for a couple of hours in the afternoon. After careful consideration we would put her in the apartment(the door of which we could see from the pool) and we had a baby monitor on. Towards the end of the holiday after the usual couple of hours and no sound from the monitor I went to the room and my daughter was awake and crying. Turns out the battery in the monitor had failed. I felt really guilty thinking the wee  one had woken up crying with no one around. We didn't do this again.

I truly believe that the money spent by the UK Police was done so as they probably believed they could implicate these two b*****ds and bring them to justice.

As an aside I know Gerry McCann's sister and she is a truly horrible individual and would appear that her brother is ten times that.

To cut a long story short, you got lucky and the McCanns didn't - is that what I'm reading? 

[The OP]

21 hours ago, Joe Terrapin said:

So, is 'The OP' Gerry or Kate? How can anyone defend these fuckers. 

I defended no-one. But it's only asinine c***s who claim that most people would have their kids taken away because of what happened. You clearly have no idea of how the courts operate.