GordonD Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, MONKMAN said: That sounds plausible, a consultant cardiologist and a GP who's previously studied anaesthesiology just happen to overdose their young child on calpol. "Right, table's booked for five minutes from now - I've given Maddy the calpol." "Shit, so have I." "Ah... it'll be okay. Four minutes now." Not suggesting for a moment that this is what happened, you understand. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 hours ago, Dee Man said: I've never really bought into the McCann's being directly responsible for her disappearance but the only thing that slightly perturbs me about Gerry McCann is the way he talks so matter-of-factly about Madeleine vanishing without any hint of emotion. As with everything in life, everyone is different and reacts differently to certain situations but to literally show no flicker of emotion when your firstborn disappears strikes me as slightly bizarre, unless his job training involves being able to detach yourself from emotional situations. Or unless he's a sociopath. I've never heard any motive for why the McCann's would want their daughter dead anyway apart from the accidental overdose which seems unlikely if you are a qualified GP. The only possible reason I could think of for Gerry wanting her dead is if he resented her in some way if he knew he wasn't the biological father but apparently that line has been suggested by the Portugese police who say they have concrete evidence there was a sperm donor used which was denied by the McCann's. Has WaffenThinMint ever been questioned? This is a new take on his talents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Alert Mongoose said: That drawer really is a b*****d. My unsubstantiated take is that she has woken up and walked out to look for her parents. Having got lost she has walked into the middle of the road and been killed. The driver having had a few drinks has shat it, put her body in the boot and buried here somewhere in the mountains. My consultancy invoice is in the post. How do you explain the lack of toddler fragments on the road? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, Sergeant Wilson said: How do you explain the lack of toddler fragments on the road? Do they shatter on impact? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said: Do they shatter on impact? Burst might be a better description. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, throbber said: Alert mongoose got that idea from The Missing and didn’t think it up himself. Don’t think it was possible for Maddie to have got out the apartment by herself otherwise that hypothesis would have been explored in greater depth. I thought the back or side door was left open? More likely that she wandered out looking for her parents and was snatched, than someone broke into the apartment and carried her off imo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The accidental overdose wouldnt explain the scent of blood and cadaver the dogs signaled More likely an accident in the apartment, maybe a fall, or a smack to her for greeting about going to bed, maddie falls, cracks her nut, shes pan bread, parents shite it, ditch the body pre tapas meal, then make her bed up so looks like shes asleep to any pals checking in, then kate claims shes been taken Put that in yer pipe sherlock, case fucking closed, gerry gets twenty years for the smack and the burying of the body somewhere, kate gets fifteen for helping him, 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 6 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I thought the back or side door was left open? More likely that she wandered out looking for her parents and was snatched, than someone broke into the apartment and carried her off imo. Who opens the window, in that scenario? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, throbber said: Well according to the Portuguese police Kate’s finger prints were on the window pulling it open rather than shut. I'm not sure why Kate would be outside opening the window and totally forgetting she'd done it if her child had actually been snatched though? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, Dele said: I'm not sure why Kate would be outside opening the window and totally forgetting she'd done it if her child had actually been snatched though? I thought the Portuguese police said it couldn't have been opened from the outside? Fucked if I'm watching it again though, their evidence didn't seem that convincing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dindeleux Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I thought the back or side door was left open? More likely that she wandered out looking for her parents and was snatched, than someone broke into the apartment and carried her off imo. The Alesha case yesterday showed that people will seize on these unplanned (if you believe him) chances. I'd never really thought the theory of Maddy McCann getting out and kidnapped and/or someone randomly breaking in and taking her as an unplanned crime had any substance but if the explanation from the Bute beast is true then it has some foundation. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, throbber said: Well hypothetically she could have opened it herself to make it look more like there had been an intruder. Was it not the case that the only evidence on the window was her fingerprints opening it rather than shutting it? Why would she open the window to make it look like there had been an intruder if her child was snatched? She has to admit she left the kids in the apartment, I'm not really sure confusing the authorities (even more) would help in her search. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby Skidmarks Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 minute ago, throbber said: You asked who would have opened the window in the situation that Madeline had left the apartment though and that is a possible answer. Kate could have put 2 and 2 together, realised Madeline had taken a walk out the door by herself and then made it look like an intruder had entered the apartment so it looked less like negligence on their part. Makes sense in theory I suppose... You've cracked it, Columbo. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bobby Skidmarks Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 26 minutes ago, throbber said: Your children make a run for it every time you leave them unattended for a split second to try and escape from the awful existence of having you as their father. This must be familiar territory for you. Being as poor a father as yours was to you is what I aspire to. Although hopefully they won't turn out to be as much of a let down as you proved to be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Being as poor a father as yours was to you is what I aspire to. Although hopefully they won't turn out to be as much of a let down as you proved to be. Ach thats a bit harsh, aside from from the disaster that is his sense of fashion, throbbs is a good lad at heart. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacksgranda Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 On 20/03/2019 at 14:38, The Moonster said: As for the McCanns, I haven't ever thought they murdered her or abducted her, but the whole "we were checking every 20 minutes" is just a complete nonsense to cover up their neglect. Not a chance they were walking over there every 20 minutes when there was a meal and wine in full flow. I could perhaps have some sympathy for them if they'd left the kids locked up in the apartment and it was then broken into and the kid was taken, but they've effectively left 3 young kids unattended and easily accessible, that's unforgivable. This 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonD Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 25 minutes ago, throbber said: Gerry also said that leaving them in the apartment felt no different to having food and drinks out in the garden at home so I take it that inspections every 20 minutes are standard practice from most parents on a nightly basis at home as well as on holiday! Most people don't have gardens that are so big the house is out of sight around a couple of corners. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
54_and_counting Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 7 hours ago, GordonD said: Most people don't have gardens that are so big the house is out of sight around a couple of corners. Aye, his lie about being in sight of the apartment wasnt followed up on much, when that investigative journalist sat at the table they did on that night you could barely see their apartment if at all 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dundeefc1783 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Watched up to end of episode 4 and it has thrown up a lot more questions than answers. I get that people think it’s very far fetched for people to think that the McCanns had involvement but a few things make me question them. Firstly I found it a bit strange that she immediately assumed she had been taken before running back to the restaurant leaving the twins asleep in the apartment. I also find it odd that the twins who were what 18 month old slept through all the commotion without making a peep. Also the fact that she apparently repeatedly checked they were breathing through the night is extremely odd unless they both had some sort of illness/virus etc which is unlikely given they were leaving them alone at nights. Doesn’t prove they were medicating the kids but certainly raises questions. The dog evidence also raises a few concerns. Why was Gerry so reluctant for the blood/ cadaver dogs to be used. Now I don’t dispute that the findings of the dog are inconclusive but it’s very coincidental that these dogs raised suspicion at the same parts of the apartment, also on the teddy, piece of clothing and also the hire car. What’s the chances of that? I do fail to understand how they would be able to dispose of the body some 3/4 weeks after the fact when the eyes of the world are on them. There is also little to know evidence of her being abducted as far as I’m aware apart from the unreliable statement from the friend which appears to have been bottomed out anyway. There are to many unanswered questions from their end for them to be completely discounted in my opinion and while it would be completely far fetched and fucked up if they had some killed her be it accidentally or not but part of me still thinks that they have done this and staged the abduction knowing full well that telling the truth would see them losing the other two children, both their careers and pretty much their whole lives. Far fetched I know but with some of the fucked up shit that we often hear about nothing would surprise me. And no I don’t believe the world is flat [emoji23]. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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