btb Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 (edited) Ireland following on are currently 35 runs behind with 5 wickets left. You would expect Pakistan to win comfortably but most of the runs in this Test have been scored in the afternoon and evening sessions, if Ireland could get ahead and leave Pakistan to bat on the fifth morning - unlikely, but who knows? ****************** Close of Play - Ireland 319/7 (139 ahead) Terrific Test match - betting was suspended temporarily yesterday when Ireland were 9/4 (the score not the odds!). Maybe Ireland have batted too well as they will continue their Innings in the morning, when conditions have favoured the bowlers so far. ************************ Pakistan win by 5 wickets - not quite enough runs on the board for Ireland once the early morning zip had worn off! Edited May 15, 2018 by btb 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Talk now of scrapping the toss in test matches. Ok the stats certainly favour the home team but I have my doubts about this. I think I'm right in saying in county cricket the away team can chose to bat or bowl or toss as normal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Talk now of scrapping the toss in test matches. Ok the stats certainly favour the home team but I have my doubts about this. I think I'm right in saying in county cricket the away team can chose to bat or bowl or toss as normal. I thought they had the option to choose to bowl first or use the toss? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capybara Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 You may well be correct. I just saw a report that talk sport have won the radio rights.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Talk now of scrapping the toss in test matches. Ok the stats certainly favour the home team but I have my doubts about this. I think I'm right in saying in county cricket the away team can chose to bat or bowl or toss as normal. I don't hate the idea. Test series victories are so infrequent it feels like something should be done to help the visiting side. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 29 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: I don't hate the idea. Test series victories are so infrequent it feels like something should be done to help the visiting side. I don't hate it, either. Give it a try, see what happens. What I do hate is the England squad. A specialist wicket keeper playing as a batsman at 7, and Bairstow, playing at 5 as a wicketkeeper, which is far too high. All over the place, that batting lineup. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I'd be up for giving it a try. It minimises the chances of home teams preparing pitches to suit their team.Then again... I'd rather they brought it in when the next Ashes is in Australia not England! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I don't hate it, either. Give it a try, see what happens. What I do hate is the England squad. A specialist wicket keeper playing as a batsman at 7, and Bairstow, playing at 5 as a wicketkeeper, which is far too high. All over the place, that batting lineup. Really? I think both justify their inclusions as batsmen. I think they should have both been in there about a year ago. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 31 minutes ago, die hard doonhamer said: 1 hour ago, Savage Henry said: I don't hate it, either. Give it a try, see what happens. What I do hate is the England squad. A specialist wicket keeper playing as a batsman at 7, and Bairstow, playing at 5 as a wicketkeeper, which is far too high. All over the place, that batting lineup. Really? I think both justify their inclusions as batsmen. I think they should have both been in there about a year ago. I think you keep Bairstow at 7 if he keeps the gloves. If you put Bairstow at 5, give the gloves to Buttler and bat him at 7. A specialist batsman (who is actually a keeper, but has been picked as a batsman) at number 7 is all kinds of weird, especially as Bairstow's batting is only so highly rated relative to his position. He goes from being the world's best number 7 to a bog standard number 5. So what England have done is replace a mediocre number five with another mediocre number five, and an exceptional number 7 with a who-knows-what number 7. It's like Moeen. He should bat absolutely nowhere other than number eight for England. He's perfectly suited to it. People could argue what does it matter, but I just think the balance is better with Bairstow at 7. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I think you keep Bairstow at 7 if he keeps the gloves. If you put Bairstow at 5, give the gloves to Buttler and bat him at 7. A specialist batsman (who is actually a keeper, but has been picked as a batsman) at number 7 is all kinds of weird, especially as Bairstow's batting is only so highly rated relative to his position. He goes from being the world's best number 7 to a bog standard number 5. So what England have done is replace a mediocre number five with another mediocre number five, and an exceptional number 7 with a who-knows-what number 7. It's like Moeen. He should bat absolutely nowhere other than number eight for England. He's perfectly suited to it. People could argue what does it matter, but I just think the balance is better with Bairstow at 7. Can see both sides with this one, released from that pressure of batting with the tail and having to hurry his run rate along Bairstow has the ability to be more than just an average no 5. That said given how mentally tiring keeping wicket is and given England's recent record of early collapses his workload may become too much, especially if he keeps opening in 50 over games. If it goes to plan then a potential 5-8 of Bairstow, Stokes, Buttler and Woakes should score a lot of runs quickly. Hope Dom Bess gets a good run as well, looks like a decent young spinner who is a decent batsman to come in at 9, given how good Pakistan and India players tend to be when facing spin my worry is he doesnt get the run in the team to establish himself. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Very much a case of same shit, different day and opposition for England today. To be fair, Pakistan bowled well but it's still a poor return to be all out for 184. Visitors were 50-1 at the close. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 If Virat Kohli's neck injury is not a season ender then this could be a very long summer. 184ao vs Pakistan is not a good start. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Said it previously but JE Root is not a captain and the selection process is a joke. The lack of application to proper batting is pathetic, its not the IPL to blame, its poor leadership by ECB, poor captaincy and poor shot selection. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Said it previously but JE Root is not a captain and the selection process is a joke. The lack of application to proper batting is pathetic, its not the IPL to blame, its poor leadership by ECB, poor captaincy and poor shot selection. Especially the last bit. Michael Vaughan bangs on about the shot selection incessantly and how they always try to hit their way out of trouble when wickets start to fall. Nobody is willing to do a Boycott and stand and defend for any length of time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 They are even fucking up catching practice now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moomintroll Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Babar Azam out for a month so will play no further part in this test. If England actually remember that test matches last 5 days and bat accordingly they still have a chance of winning this. Pitch is starting to look a bit lively and if they get a few early wickets in the 4th innings then Pakistan do tend to collapse. Chances are however that the brainless batting will continue and Pakistan will knock off the 70 odd required with no dramas. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Just turned it on after the cycling finished. Heading for an innings defeat at home against what isn't even a great Pakistan side is absolutely abject stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 8 minutes ago, peasy23 said: Just turned it on after the cycling finished. Heading for an innings defeat at home against what isn't even a great Pakistan side is absolutely abject stuff. Mr 50 fails to convert again. Saw a stat earlier, Kohli converts 57pct Smith 49 Williamson 41 and Root only 25pct Take the captaincy off him now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Mr 50 fails to convert again. Saw a stat earlier, Kohli converts 57pct Smith 49 Williamson 41 and Root only 25pct Take the captaincy off him now. I would agree if there was an obvious better option, but I can't really see anyone in the current side who fits the bill. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Just now, peasy23 said: 2 minutes ago, Tynieness said: Mr 50 fails to convert again. Saw a stat earlier, Kohli converts 57pct Smith 49 Williamson 41 and Root only 25pct Take the captaincy off him now. I would agree if there was an obvious better option, but I can't really see anyone in the current side who fits the bill. They have to think outside the box, they need a leader, not necessarily the greatest player but someone to step up. Buttler has done well elsewhere, maybe even Morgan. Could really go for it and bring in Livingstone. Giving it too Root has really hurt him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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