Bully Wee Villa Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, craigkillie said: It wasn't a dead ball though. 20.1.2 The ball shall be considered to be dead when it is clear to the bowler’s end umpire that the fielding side and both batters at the wicket have ceased to regard it as in play. Carey threw the ball at the stumps almost as soon as he had it in his hands, so he certainly didn't seem to have ceased to regard it as in play. Yeah I don't really blame him for instinctively going for the stumps. Once it was clear the batsman thought it was a dead ball, though, they should have withdrawn the appeal. If they'd been playing Bangladesh with a 500 lead, they would have done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Bridge Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: It was, however, clear that the batsmen did. Batsmen at every level take liberties IMO. See also, backing up at the non-striker's end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Just now, Crawford Bridge said: Batsmen at every level take liberties IMO. See also, backing up at the non-striker's end. They absolutely do. But it’s also widely accepted by fielding sides. On a more positive note: it’s almost impossible not to like the way Ben Stokes plays cricket. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Bridge Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: They absolutely do. But it’s also widely accepted by fielding sides. On a more positive note: it’s almost impossible not to like the way Ben Stokes plays cricket. I admit, as a keeper I am biased. I see it as my job to keep batsmen honest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 It's clearly out by the letter of the law, haven't been watching but not sure if Bairstow had been walking down the pitch regularly which is why Carey done it. At least with a Mankad you can say that's a defence to the non-striker trying to steal yards, Bairstow wasn't attempting a run. Still think this is too far beyond England, Stokes will have to hit 200. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Crawford Bridge said: I admit, as a keeper I am biased. I see it as my job to keep batsmen honest. If you've warned them, fair enough. No warning means that was outside the spirit of the game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FifeArab Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Those old pompous wanks with their ties on crying at the Australia players. Hilarious. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 "Bad sportsmanship". Grow the f**k up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuctifano Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) In the real cricket, Sri Lanka have done us a massive favour by tonking Zimbabwe which now means qualification is back in our own hands. Tuesday's match vs Zimbabwe is loser doesn't qualify. As we now have a better NRR than Zimbabwe any margin of victory will take us above them. However any margin of Zimbabwe win and we're out. If we win vs Zimbabwe and beat Netherlands on Thursday we definitely qualify. If we win vs Zimbabwe and lose to Netherlands, and Netherlands beat Oman tomorrow (which I'd assume they will) then it'll come down to NRR between us and Netherlands. If Netherlands lose to Oman and we beat Zimbabwe we're through. I've ignored washout and no result scenarios in this as it hasn't affected the tournament so far. Edited July 2, 2023 by Fuctifano 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berwick-the-unbeatable Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Lot of seething jocks on here -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 (edited) Sri Lanka twatted Zimbabwe, which is good news for us. Beat Zimbabwe and Netherlands and we qualify. Thanks to Zimbabwe's net run rate taking a beat there is also the outside chance we could lose to the Dutch and still go through, too. Edit: Fuctifano beat me to it Edited July 2, 2023 by Bully Wee Villa 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 30 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Yeah I don't really blame him for instinctively going for the stumps. Once it was clear the batsman thought it was a dead ball, though, they should have withdrawn the appeal. If they'd been playing Bangladesh with a 500 lead, they would have done. Should the spirit of sportsmanship have led to Duckett insisting he should be out last night because Starc thought the catch was complete, regardless of the third umpire's decision? We're either playing to the letter of law or not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Catches are completely different from these Mankad-type dismissals. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Dunning1874 said: Should the spirit of sportsmanship have led to Duckett insisting he should be out last night because Starc thought the catch was complete, regardless of the third umpire's decision? We're either playing to the letter of law or not. Trouble is, the Starc “catch” was a matter of fact - the ball hit the ground -whereas the “run out” was a question of understanding. Can’t really compare. If you want to do away with the notion of the spirit of cricket, and there’s a good case for doing so, you can, but it would really change the sport. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 Surprised they didn't claim that catch... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Catches are completely different from these Mankad-type dismissals. This isn’t even a Mankad. Bairstow wasn’t trying to score a run or advance the game in any way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: Surprised they didn't claim that catch... Fairly sure Smith thinks it was out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 31 minutes ago, Bully Wee Villa said: If you've warned them, fair enough. No warning means that was outside the spirit of the game. Here’s your warning, you’re playing at the top level of the game, don’t be a stupid c**t. That’s assumed as soon as you take to the field. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, parsforlife said: Here’s your warning, you’re playing at the top level of the game, don’t be a stupid c**t. That’s assumed as soon as you take to the field. On that basis you could just Mankad people every ball an no innings would last ten overs. They gave no warning, they shouldn't have maintained their appeal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Bully Wee Villa said: On that basis you could just Mankad people every ball an no innings would last ten overs. They gave no warning, they shouldn't have maintained their appeal. Well no, given after the non-striker goes the rest should switch on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.