die hard doonhamer Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Hameed currently around 77, seems to found a bit more form; should be in the West Indies Hales scored 218 batting at 5 for Notts today. Maybe he's worth a shot down the order. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanQP Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Hales scored 218 batting at 5 for Notts today. Maybe he's worth a shot down the order. Someone at Sky mentioned that. Hameed and Hales in for Jennings and Malan could maybe work? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Jazz Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Hales opening. Move Stokes, Bairstow, Ali up one and bring in a leggy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanQP Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Hales opening. Move Stokes, Bairstow, Ali up one and bring in a leggy. That would be a disaster 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Jazz Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Just now, NathanQP said: That would be a disaster How so? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 How so? Because Hales doesn't have the technique to open, and shortening the batting line up exposes the fragility of the middle order. And Ali is comfortably the best English spinner out there at the moment.Hameed, Hales and Woakes in for Jennings, Malan and Roland-Jones. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Jazz Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Just now, die hard doonhamer said: Because Hales doesn't have the technique to open, and shortening the batting line up exposes the fragility of the middle order. And Ali is comfortably the best English spinner out there at the moment. Hameed, Hales and Woakes in for Jennings, Malan and Roland-Jones. They've went through how many negative openers recently, including Hameed? What happens then when Hales comes in at 5 and the new ball comes out? It's not shortening the batting line-up if they're three of your most reliable batsmen and why not give yourself as many bowling options as possible? Edited August 7, 2017 by Jupiter Jazz 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 They've went through how many negative openers recently, including Hameed? What happens then when Hales comes in at 5 and the new ball comes out? It's not shortening the batting line-up if they're three of your most reliable batsmen and why not give yourself as many bowling options as possible? He'll have already had the chance to feel his way in with the old ball, or have more license to play his natural game as at that stage of the innings it is usually time to accelerate the scoring. Taking a batsman out is shortening the line up, and while Stokes, Bairstow and Ali are all great, they are also all capable of a brain fart (Bairstow a little less than the others) which sees them out cheaply. On an English wicket 1 spinner plus a few overs from Root is plenty spin. England should absolutely not be sacrificing a batsman for another bowler. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiter Jazz Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Just now, die hard doonhamer said: He'll have already had the chance to feel his way in with the old ball, or have more license to play his natural game as at that stage of the innings it is usually time to accelerate the scoring. Taking a batsman out is shortening the line up, and while Stokes, Bairstow and Ali are all great, they are also all capable of a brain fart (Bairstow a little less than the others) which sees them out cheaply. On an English wicket 1 spinner plus a few overs from Root is plenty spin. England should absolutely not be sacrificing a batsman for another bowler. I would say that taking Malan out and replacing him with Rashid - or a seamer if they wanted in Woakes - is plenty batting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 It will be won by whoever wins the toss. They'll bat first, post a no better than average score, then the team batting second will capitulate tomorrow afternoon. The game will not last beyond Monday. Anyway, every bit spot on. It's all a bit predictable at the moment. I'd love to see a thrilling 5 day match, one team batting to save the match on the last evening. It feels like it's been a while since we saw that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanQP Posted August 7, 2017 Share Posted August 7, 2017 Bairstow and Ali bat so well because they are playing in the correct positions, moving them down would hamper that. Plus it's hardly like England are putting up massive scores so shortening the batting really isn't an option 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 3 changes to the squad for the West Indies series, Jennings out with Mark Stoneman the latest to be given a shot at opening, Mason Crane replaces Liam Dawson, and Woakes comes in for Finn. In practice, I imagine that means Stoneman and Woakes in for Jennings and TRJ. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Well, at least we managed to win one Championship match before losing Woakes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topcat(The most tip top) Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Well, at least we managed to win one Championship match before losing Woakes. Bully Wee...Villa...And Warwickshire as well ...Is there any chance you could join the Conservative party 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 1 hour ago, die hard doonhamer said: 3 changes to the squad for the West Indies series, Jennings out with Mark Stoneman the latest to be given a shot at opening, Mason Crane replaces Liam Dawson, and Woakes comes in for Finn. In practice, I imagine that means Stoneman and Woakes in for Jennings and TRJ. You'd imagine they'll go with Stokes 6, Bairstow 7 and Ali 8, and rotate nine, ten and eleven as needs be. I don't know how good Mason Crane's batting is, but should they feel the need for two spinners they can push everyone up one, although I wish they wouldn't. The deeper England's batting is the better, for me, as their bowling in English conditions is just phenomenal. I know nothing about Stoneman, but I'd imagine Malan's place is secured for at least this series, even though he looked no better than Jennings. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 What a catch by Jack Leaning in the Roses T20 match tonight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted August 12, 2017 Share Posted August 12, 2017 Bully Wee...Villa...And Warwickshire as well ...Is there any chance you could join the Conservative party Harsh but fair [emoji28] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Saw this elsewhere, the sad tale of Patrick Patterson.http://indianexpress.com/article/sports/cricket/patrick-patterson-an-unquiet-mind-4762590/ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bully Wee Villa Posted August 14, 2017 Share Posted August 14, 2017 Bully Wee...Villa...And Warwickshire as well ...Is there any chance you could join the Conservative party Hmm.... Bullingdon Wee Villa? [emoji15] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted August 17, 2017 Share Posted August 17, 2017 England win the toss and, quelle suprise, bat first. Presumably the record for day/night tests viz-a-vis batting first is the same as for regular tests? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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