Big Fifer Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 The fact that the Scotland match is going ahead doesn't change the fact that the organisation of this tournament has been a shambles. Really feel for Italy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
same_ol_g35 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Scotland fans today. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 I suspect World rugby might use this as an argument for their rejigged yearly schedule that was voted down a while back. I can see the benefit of their proposals, particularly for the tier 2 Nations but it does risk completely ruining the 6 Nations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sjc Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, RandomGuy. said: Literally nobody is saying anything different. The argument is, if it wasnt capable of being played today, the game shouldve been moved or delayed and not just voided without even attempting to get it on, that's the complaint. Sport is littered with these kinds of rule anomalies, from the Italians beating the USSR in the Euro68 SF by the toss of a coin to manipulation of the substitute rule in cricket in order to keep bowlers fresh, to boxing scorecards. Granted, World rugby made the error of having the tournament here in typhoon season but would have been criticised for having it anytime between December and April (when the weather is more suitable), for ruining the 6 Nations or Club season. Moving the games is easier said than done as most of the venue's have been affected by the typhoon. Not to mention that the infrastructure has taken a battering. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucksburnDandy Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 The outcry of hatred towards us over here in New Zealand is something else. They want us to get pumped. I feel that they will get their wish. Everybody in world rugby apart from us is desperate to see Japan win. f**k New Zealand. They won't be happy unless they get a bye to the final, then be allowed to play a 13 man Namibia with Glenn Jackson refereeing.I have to echo these sentiments. When I visited NZ, I was so taken by their sense of smug entitlement that I genuinely wanted England to beat them on their tour that was happening. And I usually want England to lose at everything (yes I am bitter, petty and small minded) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sooky Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 As a sporting nation that is always the perpetual underdog, being the villain across the globe is a nice wee change for us. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 The hypocrisy from England and New Zealand fans is a joke - they'd be the first to moan if their game had been threatened and it meant they were going to be put out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunning1874 Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 I’m genuinely at a loss as to how we’re the villain here. People could perhaps see Dodson’s comments as insensitive, and I fully expected the worldwide audience to be supporting Japan anyway even without there having been any threat to the game taking place, but this is so clearly an open and shut case of World Rugby and no one else being in the wrong. Having such a back and forth over whether the game will be on isn’t the SRU’s fault, it’s World Rugby. The focus being distracted from public safety isn’t Scotland’s doing, it’s World Rugby. Italy being kicked out of the tournament days before they were meant to play while the Scotland game was given until hours before kick off to give it every chance wasn’t due to Scotland demanding favourable treatment, it was due to World Rugby giving favourable treatment to New Zealand as a matter of policy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hearthammer Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: The hypocrisy from England and New Zealand fans is a joke - they'd be the first to moan if their game had been threatened and it meant they were going to be put out. This. And the organisers would have swiftly found alternative arrangements to get their games played "for the good of the tournament". Scotland, on the other hand, aren't box-office enough for them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 1 hour ago, sjc said: Sport is littered with these kinds of rule anomalies, from the Italians beating the USSR in the Euro68 SF by the toss of a coin to manipulation of the substitute rule in cricket in order to keep bowlers fresh, to boxing scorecards. Granted, World rugby made the error of having the tournament here in typhoon season but would have been criticised for having it anytime between December and April (when the weather is more suitable), for ruining the 6 Nations or Club season. Moving the games is easier said than done as most of the venue's have been affected by the typhoon. Not to mention that the infrastructure has taken a battering. There will be games going ahead next weekend regardless. You seem to be absolutely desperate to make it clear you're in Japan and how terrible it all is, and how great the people are there. Frankly its nothing to do with this. Our game was scheduled today, if its cancelled it's a week until the next game, I doubt any "infrastructure" that's taken a battering will be down for more than a day or two, so theres no reason they couldnt have delayed cancelled games until Tuesday, even if it means moving it to other parts of the country where the storm hit earlier. This is the issue. This is the complaint. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Wales just going to bore us to death as usual. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Just about to comment about Wales continually getting away with forward passes....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Would be funny if Wales didn't win this. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swarley Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Would be funny if Wales didn't win this.The locals here are certainly hoping for Uruguay win 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 The quotes on that thread from All Blacks fans are just laughable.The biggest set of whingers ever in world rugby. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldo Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: The quotes on that thread from All Blacks fans are just laughable. The biggest set of whingers ever in world rugby. Do they actually see us a threat? Or just a slightly harder path than Japan? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Do they actually see us a threat? Or just a slightly harder path than Japan?Neither tbh.It's the sanctimonious claptrap that they spout - the holier than thou attitude until the shoe fits their foot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Just now, DeeTillEhDeh said: Neither tbh. It's the sanctimonious claptrap that they spout - the holier than thou attitude until the shoe fits their foot. They're still whinging about France beating them in 2007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted October 13, 2019 Share Posted October 13, 2019 Haven’t read the entire thread, so apologies if this has already been mentioned. Someone told me yesterday that prior to the tournament taking place, all the competing nations signed contracts with World Rugby. Part of those contracts covered the cancellation of games, and how points would be awarded. All nations agreed to this and signed the contracts. Now, if this is true, that was the time for concerned nations to say ‘no, not signing that, we should look to move cancelled games, or delay them by a day or two, and if that cannot happen, then cancel the game and void the result’. Apparently, Scotland signed up to exactly what might have been the situation with our game against Japan today. A kick in the baws for any nation unlucky enough to have it happen to them, but frankly, just a case of ‘nae luck’. Is it true that all nations signed contracts that agreed pool games, cancelled in the event of fire, flood, pestilence, typhoons or Dave King turning up at Narita airport, wouldn’t be moved or delayed, but declared null and void? If so, why did we threaten legal action and go full-on ‘big hoose must stay open’ on everyone? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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