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50 minutes ago, come on shire said:

Dave Rennie's the bookies fave to replace Michael Cheika as the Wallabies head coach.

Maybe it'll be a swap deal lol?

If Rennie does go, will Glasgow look to get Townsend back ??  With all the post-WC conjecture, I wonder if the Glasgow gig would appeal to him ??

Then, that would leave the Scotland job open for . . . . . . . .  ??

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If Rennie does go, will Glasgow look to get Townsend back ??  With all the post-WC conjecture, I wonder if the Glasgow gig would appeal to him ??
Then, that would leave the Scotland job open for . . . . . . . .  ??


I think Townsend will want to go to France, before he goes back to Glasgow.

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2 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said:
3 hours ago, come on shire said:
Dave Rennie's the bookies fave to replace Michael Cheika as the Wallabies head coach.
Maybe it'll be a swap deal lol?

Good, he's been pish for Glasgow

With respect I'm not sure about that. In his 1st season he got us to a home play-off in the Pro14. In his 2nd season he got us to the quarter finals of the European Champs Cup and the Pro14 final. 

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EFEREE APPOINTMENTS

ROUND 4

Friday, October 25

Ulster Rugby v Cardiff Blues – KO 19:35

Kingspan Stadium, Belfast 

Referee: Mike Adamson (SRU, 38th Championship appearance)

AR1: Sean Gallagher (IRFU) AR2: Dave Sutherland (SRU)

TMO: Neil Paterson (SRU)

Live on eir sport 2, Premier Sports 1, S4C, Supersport 5, DAZN, PRO14.tv

 

Munster Rugby v Ospreys – KO 19:35

Irish Independent Park, Cork

Referee: Stuart Berry (SARU, 26th Championship appearance)

AR1: Stuart Gaffigan (IRFU) AR2: Paul Haycock (IRFU)

TMO: Charles Samson (SRU)

Live on eir sport 1, Premier Sports 2, TG4, DAZN, PRO14.tv

Deferred: Sunday 14:05 S4C

Saturday, October 26

Benetton Rugby v Isuzu Southern Kings KO 15:00 (UK) / 16:00 (ITA & SA)

Stadio Monigo, Treviso

Referee: Dan Jones (WRU, 27th Championship appearance)

AR1: Marius Mitrea (FIR) AR2: Dai Cambourne (WRU)

TMO: Tim Hayes (WRU)

Live on eir sport 2, FreeSports, Supersport 2, DAZN, PRO14.tv

 

Dragons v Glasgow Warriors – KO 15:00

Rodney Parade, Newport

Referee: George Clancy (IRFU, 117th Championship appearance)

AR1: Simon Rees (WRU) AR2: Chris Busby (IRFU)

TMO: Simon McDowell (IRFU)

Live on eir sport 1, Premier Sports 2, DAZN, PRO14.tv

 

Zebre Rugby Club v Leinster Rugby – KO 17:15 (UK) / 18:15 (ITA)

Stadio Sergio Lanfranchi, PArma

Referee: Craig Evans (WRU, 7th Championship appearance)

AR1: Manuel Bottino (FIR), AR2: Chris Williams (WRU)

TMO: Jon Mason (WRU)

Live on eir sport 1, Premier Sports 2, DAZN, PRO14.tv

 

Connacht v Cheetahs – KO 17:15 (UK) / 18:15 (SA)

The Sportsground, Galway

Referee: Ben Whitehouse (WRU, 61st Championship appearance)

AR1: Sean Gallagher (IRFU) AR2: Gwyn Morris (WRU)

TMO: Sean Brickell (IRFU)

Live on eir sport 2, Premier Sports 1, Supersport 2, TG4, DAZN, PRO14.tv

 

Edinburgh v Scarlets – KO 19:35

BT Murrayfield, Edinburgh

Referee: Frank Murphy (IRFU, 27th Championship appearance)

AR1: Sam Grove-White (SRU) AR2: Eddie Hogan O’Connell (IRFU)

TMO: Olly Hodges (IRFU)

Live on eir sport 2, Premier Sports 2, Supersport 2, DAZN, PRO14.tv

Deferred: 14:05 on S4C


Read more at https://www.pro14rugby.org/match-centre/referee-appointments/#iFWmjAJM77APSBZK.99

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If Rennie got the Australia job (and would they want someone from NZ coaching them?) it could through up some interesting questions. The RC doesn't start until July, but would assume they would want him in for summer tests but probably not really needed before May - could he stay at Glasgow until the end of the 6N's, then either Toony or one if his assistants (Redpath?) take over until the end of the year.

In terms of taking over full time I dont really see any scottish coach holding their hand up, but would rather that than someone from the SH.

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What the hell is wrong with that?
I can't really get the major seethe either tbh, it's not as if it was a controversial decision, it was as clear a red card as you will ever see. He's been asked to pose for a photo and did so, he can't win, if he tells them to feck off he probably gets slagged all over Twitter too.
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With respect I'm not sure about that. In his 1st season he got us to a home play-off in the Pro14. In his 2nd season he got us to the quarter finals of the European Champs Cup and the Pro14 final. 
He's won nothing. We were on an upwards trajectory when Toony left, he should at least have won something.
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I can't really get the major seethe either tbh, it's not as if it was a controversial decision, it was as clear a red card as you will ever see. He's been asked to pose for a photo and did so, he can't win, if he tells them to feck off he probably gets slagged all over Twitter too.
I agree, much to do about nothing. French should be more worried about their abject capitulations
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12 hours ago, John Lambies Doos said:
19 hours ago, come on shire said:
With respect I'm not sure about that. In his 1st season he got us to a home play-off in the Pro14. In his 2nd season he got us to the quarter finals of the European Champs Cup and the Pro14 final. 

He's won nothing. We were on an upwards trajectory when Toony left, he should at least have won something.

Glasgow finished 6th in Townsend's last season, only scraping into a Champions Cup spot and missing out on the Pro12 playoffs (11 points behind 4th placed Ospreys and 28 points off 1st). People excused that as Glasgow reached the quarter finals of the Champions Cup for the first time, but Rennie managed that whilst still reaching the Pro14 final.

Under Rennie, Glasgow have topped their conference twice, finishing with the most points of either conference. I don’t think anyone would argue Leinster weren’t the best side during this time, but Glasgow have still done well.

I won’t deny parts of Rennie’s tenure have felt slightly underwhelming but, particularly when you compare the number of quality players who have left Glasgow to the number of poor signings they’ve made in the last 2 years, he’s undeniably done a good job with what he’s got.

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Glasgow finished 6th in Townsend's last season, only scraping into a Champions Cup spot and missing out on the Pro12 playoffs (11 points behind 4th placed Ospreys and 28 points off 1st). People excused that as Glasgow reached the quarter finals of the Champions Cup for the first time, but Rennie managed that whilst still reaching the Pro14 final.

Under Rennie, Glasgow have topped their conference twice, finishing with the most points of either conference. I don’t think anyone would argue Leinster weren’t the best side during this time, but Glasgow have still done well.

I won’t deny parts of Rennie’s tenure have felt slightly underwhelming but, particularly when you compare the number of quality players who have left Glasgow to the number of poor signings they’ve made in the last 2 years, he’s undeniably done a good job with what he’s got.

Unfortunately it was not good enough, that's the realism of sport these days. Glasgow have failed since 2015.

It was clear that Rennie needed to sort out the forward physicalty of the side and he didn't.

 

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On 22/10/2019 at 16:36, John Lambies Doos said:

Unfortunately it was not good enough, that's the realism of sport these days. Glasgow have failed since 2015.

It was clear that Rennie needed to sort out the forward physicalty of the side and he didn't.

 

The problem with Rennie is we have stood still while he has been in charge. None of his signings have been above meh levels, (not counting Jones and Hastings as Im putting that down to Glasgow being told they were having him.) I cant name anyone that has joined in the last 3 years that has made any sort of impact.

The style of play doesn't seemed to have changed from Toonies time either, apart from running more from deep. It looks much less balanced now

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The problem with Rennie is we have stood still while he has been in charge. None of his signings have been above meh levels, (not counting Jones and Hastings as Im putting that down to Glasgow being told they were having him.) I cant name anyone that has joined in the last 3 years that has made any sort of impact.
The style of play doesn't seemed to have changed from Toonies time either, apart from running more from deep. It looks much less balanced now
Honest by name, honest by nature.
This is my point, and maybe a do come across a bit Roy Keanish but we have to accept that based on our trajectory Rennie has failed. I support Glasgow to win things, he has won nothing.
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On ‎22‎/‎10‎/‎2019 at 09:23, Jaggy Snake said:

Glasgow finished 6th in Townsend's last season, only scraping into a Champions Cup spot and missing out on the Pro12 playoffs (11 points behind 4th placed Ospreys and 28 points off 1st). People excused that as Glasgow reached the quarter finals of the Champions Cup for the first time, but Rennie managed that whilst still reaching the Pro14 final.

Under Rennie, Glasgow have topped their conference twice, finishing with the most points of either conference. I don’t think anyone would argue Leinster weren’t the best side during this time, but Glasgow have still done well.

I won’t deny parts of Rennie’s tenure have felt slightly underwhelming but, particularly when you compare the number of quality players who have left Glasgow to the number of poor signings they’ve made in the last 2 years, he’s undeniably done a good job with what he’s got.

Spot on assessment.

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I think the issue is more that the team peaked with the Pro12 win, and seems to have got no where near the level of the 14/15 team. I just looked back at the team to see who we had lost since then, and the team has changed completely form the one from the final

FB15Scotland Stuart HoggSubstituted off 62'RW14Scotland Tommy SeymourOC13Scotland Richie VernonIC12Scotland Peter HorneLW11Canada D. T. H. van der MerweSubstituted off 70'FH10Scotland Finn RussellSubstituted off 66'SH9Scotland Henry PyrgosN88South Africa Josh Strauss (c)OF7Scotland Ryan WilsonBF6Scotland Rob HarleySubstituted off 60'RL5Scotland Jonny GrayLL4Fiji Leone NakarawaSubstituted off 66'TP3South Africa Rossouw de KlerkSubstituted off 52'HK2Scotland Dougie HallSubstituted off 62'LP1Scotland Gordon ReidSubstituted off 77'Replacements:HK16Scotland Fraser BrownSubstituted in 62'PR17Fiji Jerry YanuyanutawaSubstituted in 77'PR18Scotland Jon WelshSubstituted in 52'LK19Scotland Alastair KellockSubstituted in 66'FL20Scotland Chris FusaroSubstituted in 60'SH21Fiji Nikola MatawaluSubstituted in 70'FH22Scotland Duncan WeirSubstituted in 66'WG23Scotland Sean LamontSubstituted in 62'Coach:Scotland Gregor Townsend

 

Hoggs just gone, Vernon left after the final, DTH went and came back, Russells gone, Pyrgos, gone, Strauss went, Nakarawa went (porbably the biggest miss), dont remember de Klerk, Hall retired, Reid left, Big jerry might still be here, Welsh gone, Kellock retired, matawala left and came back, Weir's gone, and Lamont retired thats 15 of the 23 in 5 years

We've also lost Dunbar, Bennett, Eddie, Murchie, McArthur, which is 20 good players (ive not included any of the dross that would have been in the squad at that point. We just have struggled to replace any of these guys

Hogg leaves - no replacement but one of hte 7's team gets a run for a few games until he dissapears back to the 7's

Nakarawa has never been replaced - Swinson would be first choice with Gray now for 2nd row, but he was 4th choice behind Kellock back then

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Bit of revisionism here. Cummings is first choice miles ahead of Swinson now. Our starting centres are better, although to be fair Bennet and Dunbar were actually first choice in 2015. Our first choice and second 9’s are better now.

Kebble v Reid? Fagerson v de Klerk? Brown v Hall? Turner / Stewart v MacArthur? 

Hogg is a generational player so v hard to replace, as is Nakawara, who funnily enough wasn’t always first pick and would often try the miracle ball once too often, but no doubting his display in the final was something else.
 

If we can replace Strauss (I like M Fagerson a lot) and get a better FB we are in a decent place. The fact is the club model is generally not to spend big on big time players, Jones aside who has been disappointing.

Last season was the second best year in the history of the club, a one score defeat in final and a European quarter final appearance, unfortunately against the worst possible opponent for us

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