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Here is the yellow card challenge for anybody that missed it earlier, I don't see anything except a red for that tbh. He might land back first, but his head whacks off the ground too.

 

 

 

In effect, Geoff Cross was given a retrospective red for something similar. Finn Russell got a retrospective red for far, far less. I didn’t hear the commentary but I guess the ref gave the guy credit for trying to pull out, albeit far too late?

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12 minutes ago, Savage Henry said:

 

 

In effect, Geoff Cross was given a retrospective red for something similar. Finn Russell got a retrospective red for far, far less. I didn’t hear the commentary but I guess the ref gave the guy credit for trying to pull out, albeit far too late?

That was the thing, the ref agreed that the 7 was never in any position to challenge for the ball, but the fact that the 9 landed on his back was enough mitigation in his view to make it only a yellow. Commentators thought he was very lucky to get a yellow.

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29 minutes ago, peasy23 said:

Here is the yellow card challenge for anybody that missed it earlier, I don't see anything except a red for that tbh. He might land back first, but his head whacks off the ground too.

 

The training that South African refs are geting from Craig Joubert are paying off 

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55 minutes ago, peasy23 said:

Here is the yellow card challenge for anybody that missed it earlier, I don't see anything except a red for that tbh. He might land back first, but his head whacks off the ground too.

 

Elliot Daly was sent off for something pretty much identical so on that basis, red. However, my initial reaction is yellow.

Would have been red if Garces or Poite had been officiating with the additional comment of "very dangerous" from Poite who thinks that a normal tackle is dangerous.

24 minutes ago, ajwffc said:

The training that South African refs are geting from Craig Joubert are paying off 

Joubert would have ignored it and given a penalty the other way before sprinting off the park claiming that he desperately needed to take a massive shit. Not that I'm implying that the corrupt fucker had tried that excuse before...

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In effect, Geoff Cross was given a retrospective red for something similar. Finn Russell got a retrospective red for far, far less. I didn’t hear the commentary but I guess the ref gave the guy credit for trying to pull out, albeit far too late?


“Far too late” is basically the point at issue and in slo motion it’s going to look a lot later

This law is a minefield
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On 13/03/2020 at 21:25, Snobot said:

U-20s just delivered a severe pumping to the Welsh U-20s. On S4C on iPlayer. Probably the last game of rugby you will see for quite some time and some cracking tries. Seemed to be quite a vocal crowd for behind closed doors right enough.

Highlights up on the SRU's Youtube.  Chamberlain at 10 looks a talent.

 

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2 hours ago, peasy23 said:
6 hours ago, The_Kincardine said:
Highlights up on the SRU's Youtube.  Chamberlain at 10 looks a talent.
 

Some cracking tries in there.

Indeed.  You only saw him twice but the big lock with the scrum cap reminded me of my playing days looked handy and mobile.

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12 minutes ago, peasy23 said:
36 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said:
Indeed.  You only saw him twice but the big lock with the scrum cap reminded me of my playing days looked handy and mobile.

I was shocked to see a Scottish hooker throwing the ball straight at a line out tbh.

Don't get me started.  Our line outs vs Ireland and England were the worst I have ever watched in my lifetime.

We scrummed well and improved as the competition went on and I am miffed we didn't get the chance to play Wales as I fancied us.

So "Toonie oot"?  What's your take?

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Don't get me started.  Our line outs vs Ireland and England were the worst I have ever watched in my lifetime.
We scrummed well and improved as the competition went on and I am miffed we didn't get the chance to play Wales as I fancied us.
So "Toonie oot"?  What's your take?
It was obviously a much improved performance against France, even before the red card, but the last year or so has been very hit and miss. If we had gone to Cardiff and shat the bed as we often do, then his time was up for me.

We seem to have found a bit of pragmatism lately that has been missing for a while. It's as if they have suddenly realised that you have to defend for big parts of games.
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22 hours ago, peasy23 said:

It was obviously a much improved performance against France, even before the red card, but the last year or so has been very hit and miss. If we had gone to Cardiff and shat the bed as we often do, then his time was up for me.

We seem to have found a bit of pragmatism lately that has been missing for a while. It's as if they have suddenly realised that you have to defend for big parts of games.

We were within a score in Dublin. We were right in contention all the way through and came within inches of a draw. Our losing margins in 6 Nations matches there, working back from 2018, have been 20, 10, 22, 18, won by 3, 21, 6, 21, 21, 22.

Surely that's at least slightly above par?

Then we lost by a score at home to England in a howling gale. It was basically a non-test. It's the worst weather I've ever experienced at any sporting occasion. We've only beaten England once at Murrayfield since 2008.

That's par.

Italy away, we won by our biggest away winning margin in the 6 Nations since 2002, and third biggest in the tournament ever.

Above par.

And most recently we horsed the best French side in a decade, playing cracking rugby, defending well, winning the breakdown and kicking with intelligence.

Well above par.

If a small handful of moments had gone our way we'd be sitting on 4 wins just now. We were very competitive in the matches we lost and have conceded four tries. The same opponents last season put 15 on us.

But you want the manager sacked if we lose in a place where very few visiting teams ever go and win? Where until this season the only teams who'd beaten them since 2013 were England, Ireland, New Zealand and Australia? There's nothing Townsend could do to win over the haters, because it's nothing to do with rugby.

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We were within a score in Dublin. We were right in contention all the way through and came within inches of a draw. Our losing margins in 6 Nations matches there, working back from 2018, have been 20, 10, 22, 18, won by 3, 21, 6, 21, 21, 22.
Surely that's at least slightly above par?
Then we lost by a score at home to England in a howling gale. It was basically a non-test. It's the worst weather I've ever experienced at any sporting occasion. We've only beaten England once at Murrayfield since 2008.
That's par.
Italy away, we won by our biggest away winning margin in the 6 Nations since 2002, and third biggest in the tournament ever.
Above par.
And most recently we horsed the best French side in a decade, playing cracking rugby, defending well, winning the breakdown and kicking with intelligence.
Well above par.
If a small handful of moments had gone our way we'd be sitting on 4 wins just now. We were very competitive in the matches we lost and have conceded four tries. The same opponents last season put 15 on us.
But you want the manager sacked if we lose in a place where very few visiting teams ever go and win? Where until this season the only teams who'd beaten them since 2013 were England, Ireland, New Zealand and Australia? There's nothing Townsend could do to win over the haters, because it's nothing to do with rugby.


The conditions for the England game were such that if we’d won it the haters would be saying it was a freak game that proved nothing

And they’d be right
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A very worrying comment by Stuart Hogg in the professional era. So WTF was the Scotland set up all about.


He laughs at the mention of the weight issue. "When I got Six Nations player of year in 2016 and 2017 I was 101 kilos and my skinfold (body fat percentage) was ridiculous. Horrendous. I was in heinous shape. Well, maybe not heinous, but I wasn't in great condition. It was only when I went on the Lions tour in 2017 that I realised what it was all about.

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