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1 hour ago, John Lambies Doos said:

Going to go with following for Scottish contingent, baring no withdrawals. Optimistic but don't think it will be far off.

Sutherland R (if fit)
Gray J.
Watson H.
Price A
Russell F (at expense of Sexton)
Harris C
Van der Merwe D.
Hogg S.

8 players....

I watched some Lions draft thing on BT last night after the Bath game. It was really stupid where they had 4 guys taking turns to pick players for their teams. Even having to pick 8 props and 8 centres between them, none of them picked Sutherland or Harris. None picked Price either.

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I watched some Lions draft thing on BT last night after the Bath game. It was really stupid where they had 4 guys taking turns to pick players for their teams. Even having to pick 8 props and 8 centres between them, none of them picked Sutherland or Harris. None picked Price either.
They are clueless. Look at Sutherlands stats vs wyn Jones for 6 nations. Betcha everyone picked wyn Jones and owens who were beasted against a poor Sale team
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37 minutes ago, John Lambies Doos said:
1 hour ago, GAD said:
I watched some Lions draft thing on BT last night after the Bath game. It was really stupid where they had 4 guys taking turns to pick players for their teams. Even having to pick 8 props and 8 centres between them, none of them picked Sutherland or Harris. None picked Price either.

They are clueless. Look at Sutherlands stats vs wyn Jones for 6 nations. Betcha everyone picked wyn Jones and owens who were beasted against a poor Sale team

Yeah, I remember someone on here saying you could have the incredible hulk as the other prop in a Wyn Jones/Owens front row and they'd still get hammered. It's actually quite funny that the same people are the ones saying that you can't take Watson because he's not powerful enough.

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Yeah, I remember someone on here saying you could have the incredible hulk as the other prop in a Wyn Jones/Owens front row and they'd still get hammered. It's actually quite funny that the same people are the ones saying that you can't take Watson because he's not powerful enough.
Yeh. The watson is too small thing has grown legs due to so called expert pundits being utterly clueless and baa'ing like sheep. Welsh and Irish being the worst
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Some of the Lions pick shows are hilarious. James Haskell and Mike Tindell both picked George Turner on their podcast, not just for the squad but to start the tests, basically because his one great game against England. They did at least admit they hadn't seen much else of him but even Scots wouldn't suggest Turner for the squad.

I think one of them said Watson for their potential player of the tour but didn't actually have him in their starting 15. Genius. 

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36 minutes ago, Jaggy Snake said:

Some of the Lions pick shows are hilarious. James Haskell and Mike Tindell both picked George Turner on their podcast, not just for the squad but to start the tests, basically because his one great game against England. They did at least admit they hadn't seen much else of him but even Scots wouldn't suggest Turner for the squad.

I think one of them said Watson for their potential player of the tour but didn't actually have him in their starting 15. Genius. 

Ha ha, yeah, I don't think most Scots would have Turner even starting for Scotland.

James Ryan is another guy who I've never really got the hype for. He's in every squad, but he seems to be another of these guys who plays for Ireland do we've just to accept he's brilliant, but I've never seen it.

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18 hours ago, GAD said:

Ha ha, yeah, I don't think most Scots would have Turner even starting for Scotland.

James Ryan is another guy who I've never really got the hype for. He's in every squad, but he seems to be another of these guys who plays for Ireland do we've just to accept he's brilliant, but I've never seen it.

I think Ryan still gets that glow from emerging from the Leinster academy as a pretty fully formed international lock. I don't think he's really got better from that point in the last few years. He's got a bit of that modern lock thing about him but he doesn't do the basics of the role as well as say AWJ or maybe even Johnny Gray and he doesn't do the extras as well as an Itoje, he's underpowered compared to the SA lads etc.

That being said I'd be delighted if he played for Scotland, he is really good. Just maybe not the once in a generation talent he looked at first.

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Lions squad meltdown day tomorrow. What are we expecting? 5 at least? I'm mostly looking forward to being told it's unrealistic to expect any of our players in the squad ahead of the 15 English players from the the we keep beating.

I reckon for Scotland Hogg will go, and may even be a dark horse for captain. I also think, despite the massive campaign against them by the English and Welsh media that Watson and Russell will definitely be there. I also think Price will make it. Sutherland's injury might rule him out, but can see Fagerson making it as well. Beyond that? I don't know. Harris is being talked up, but I think Davies has more credit in the bank. Centres are a heavy weak spot though so being defensively sound and not making too many mistakes might be enough. DVM I think also has a bigger chance than people think. He's not defensively sound, but neither are LRZ, Adams or May. DVM offers something they don't have though, and I think Gatland might want that, especially with no North.

My heavy outsider from Scotland Maitland. Heavily underrated, great in defence and in the air, and deceptively quick. He doesn't get mentioned at all, but I bet he's in the discussion. I also think Johnny Gray's ability to make 500 tackles a match without missing any may see him sneak in if Tandy can be especially persuasive.

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I think Hogg, Russell and Watson are on the plane.

VDM, Sutherland, Ritchie, Gray, Harris, Fagerson, Price as possibles in that order of potential.

As sneaky outsiders Redpath - immense against England then out injured, could be a possible, Brown - no real stand out hookers and can fill in on backrow as well with a smaller squad being adaptable will be important.

Looking forward to the seethe when SImmonds and Care get picked, and Sexton is left out

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Lions squad meltdown day tomorrow. What are we expecting? 5 at least? I'm mostly looking forward to being told it's unrealistic to expect any of our players in the squad ahead of the 15 English players from the the we keep beating.
I reckon for Scotland Hogg will go, and may even be a dark horse for captain. I also think, despite the massive campaign against them by the English and Welsh media that Watson and Russell will definitely be there. I also think Price will make it. Sutherland's injury might rule him out, but can see Fagerson making it as well. Beyond that? I don't know. Harris is being talked up, but I think Davies has more credit in the bank. Centres are a heavy weak spot though so being defensively sound and not making too many mistakes might be enough. DVM I think also has a bigger chance than people think. He's not defensively sound, but neither are LRZ, Adams or May. DVM offers something they don't have though, and I think Gatland might want that, especially with no North.
My heavy outsider from Scotland Maitland. Heavily underrated, great in defence and in the air, and deceptively quick. He doesn't get mentioned at all, but I bet he's in the discussion. I also think Johnny Gray's ability to make 500 tackles a match without missing any may see him sneak in if Tandy can be especially persuasive.
Had the same thoughts about Maitland, with the smaller squad size then the fact he can play on the wing as well as fullback might help his case.

Hogg, Russell and Watson definite for me.

Duhan and Harris just behind and would be in my squad. Would like there to be more but can't see it tbh.
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48 minutes ago, peasy23 said:

Had the same thoughts about Maitland, with the smaller squad size then the fact he can play on the wing as well as fullback might help his case.

Hogg, Russell and Watson definite for me.

Duhan and Harris just behind and would be in my squad. Would like there to be more but can't see it tbh.

Seems to be heavy rumours that somebody who is not a current international has been picked. Everyone seems to think it's Care or Simmonds, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was Marler.

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1 hour ago, GAD said:

Seems to be heavy rumours that somebody who is not a current international has been picked. Everyone seems to think it's Care or Simmonds, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was Marler.

I dont think it will be Marler, he turned down playing in the 6N's as he would have to be away from his family for so long, cant see him going with the Lions which will be just as long away from home

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5 minutes ago, honestly united said:

I dont think it will be Marler, he turned down playing in the 6N's as he would have to be away from his family for so long, cant see him going with the Lions which will be just as long away from home

Yeah, Telegraph saying it's Simmonds. Which is going to be a real kick in the teeth for whoever gets left out. 

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