GAD Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 8 hours ago, GordonS said: Not in the rules or in practice - if you jump it's a fair contest, and two players colliding in the air is much less dangerous than one in the air and one on the ground, because the one on the ground is likely to take his opponent's legs out, leading to him landing head-first. On the lineout, I played youth rugby in the early 90s and it was banned then, but I wasn't sure if that's because we were inexperienced and vulnerable or it was a general ban. I don't think lifting increases the risks as long as the lifters know what they're doing. I thought with the lineout it was the usual grey area fudge that rugby has been guilty of for decades where you were allowed to "support" the jumper but not "lift", which of course meant effectively the same thing. I played prop through the whole of the 90s and early 00s, with the standard two props at 1 and 3 in the lineout, best jumper at 2, second best at 4, and we were definitely lifting for the majority of that as far as I can remember. Maybe we were just cheating c***s. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 I think Gatland will bottle this and play exact same way against boks. If he does, they will lose...and I hope Liam Williams and Josh Adams drop every high ball they get. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 10 hours ago, GAD said: I thought with the lineout it was the usual grey area fudge that rugby has been guilty of for decades where you were allowed to "support" the jumper but not "lift", which of course meant effectively the same thing. I played prop through the whole of the 90s and early 00s, with the standard two props at 1 and 3 in the lineout, best jumper at 2, second best at 4, and we were definitely lifting for the majority of that as far as I can remember. Maybe we were just cheating c***s. You're spot on, "supporting" and "boosting" were allowed, meaning you weren't allowed to help the jumper until he had actually left the ground. Pre-gripping also wasn't allowed at various levels, and there was a limit at one point on where you could support from. IIRC the guy at the front tried to use under the knee caps to hold the jumper, while the guy at the back would grab the top of the hamstring just under the arse, but they then said no lower than the top of the knee? Been a while since I read those rules closely tbh, and even longer since I bothered to enforce them when I was reffing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 I see we are getting an Edinburgh and Glasgow Scottish Select vs Tonga match. We should be able to put out a strong line up. Maybe lacking a winger and needing a 10 to step up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just seen something on facebook saying 6 incidents from Saturdays game have been reported to the citing commisioner. No ida of details. It was wales online and I’m not clicking that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, Detournement said: I see we are getting an Edinburgh and Glasgow Scottish Select vs Tonga match. We should be able to put out a strong line up. Maybe lacking a winger and needing a 10 to step up. The 10s will be two of Thompson, Weir or Jaco surely? Probably give Thompson his debut. We won't be able to cap Ashman in that one though. I expect he's absolutely certain to at least come off the bench in one of the other games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Just seen something on facebook saying 6 incidents from Saturdays game have been reported to the citing commisioner. No ida of details. It was wales online and I’m not clicking that.You would assume Sinckler, Kolbe, Faf and Curry will be 4 of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 23 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 58 minutes ago, Left Back said: Just seen something on facebook saying 6 incidents from Saturdays game have been reported to the citing commisioner. No ida of details. It was wales online and I’m not clicking that. You would assume Sinckler, Kolbe, Faf and Curry will be 4 of them. Pretty sure the only citing is Sinckler. Wales online have run various clickbait about who should be cited along with a daily "kick out the Jocks" article. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Left Back Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, GAD said: Pretty sure the only citing is Sinckler. Wales online have run various clickbait about who should be cited along with a daily "kick out the Jocks" article. Other media is reporting it as only Sinckler which is why I never clicked it. Had the misfortune of reading one of their “articles” in the past. Eye bleeding stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 You would assume Sinckler, Kolbe, Faf and Curry will be 4 of them. And itoje 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 this could be fun https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/16057/12371109/british-and-irish-lions-south-africa-director-of-rugby-rassie-erasmus-to-face-misconduct-hearing-after-criticism-of-match-officials 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Will the team be announced tomorrow morning like last week or will it be later in week announcement 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 6 changes. Out all together are hogg, Farrell, faletau and Watson. Price, Owens, Aki, Adans, Williams and Wyn Jones start. Finn onto the bench 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Williams better be fucking brilliant. I've no idea how Owens managed to get promoted to a start to be honest. It looks like a really half arsed attempt to play a bit faster and wider, that's going to be absolutely crippled by having Biggar at fly half when Price is on, and Murray at scrum half when Russell is on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Very surprised that Duhan has kept his place. Thought Hamish would at least have been on the bench, not really surprised at the others dropping out.Ken Owens though. [emoji85] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Williams better be fucking brilliant. I've no idea how Owens managed to get promoted to a start to be honest. It looks like a really half arsed attempt to play a bit faster and wider, that's going to be absolutely crippled by having Biggar at fly half when Price is on, and Murray at scrum half when Russell is on.God knows how Jamie George has gone from skippering the Lions against the Sharks 3 weeks ago to being 3rd choice behind Owens and LCD. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GAD Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 4 minutes ago, peasy23 said: 13 minutes ago, GAD said: Williams better be fucking brilliant. I've no idea how Owens managed to get promoted to a start to be honest. It looks like a really half arsed attempt to play a bit faster and wider, that's going to be absolutely crippled by having Biggar at fly half when Price is on, and Murray at scrum half when Russell is on. God knows how Jamie George has gone from skippering the Lions against the Sharks 3 weeks ago to being 3rd choice behind Owens and LCD. I'm not convinced by either if those front rows to be honest. Wyn Jones he's become a better player the less he's played, and is seen as the big fix, but not much attention has been paid to the fact Furlong hadn't been doing very well. AWJ hadn't been great, and Itoje struggled last week. The back row were also given a pasting, so not sure why Beirne and Watson are out altogether, as there is now zero turnover threat in that pack. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 That's fucking appalling treatment of Hamish Watson and Beirne.Gatland can fucking do one imhoAnd Ken Owens?Jesus wept. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Faf being out is probably a bigger thing than any of the changes made by Gatland - he totally controlled the game on Saturday - his box kicking was on the money. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bob Mahelp Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Gatland just reverting to type, isn't he ? Packing the side with Welsh players. f**k them, I hope the Lions get a tanking on Saturday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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