Mark Connolly Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Good win. As an aside, Warburton is done. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Good win. As an aside, Warburton is done. Yep....and a certainty for lions no doubt. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Lambies Doos Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Glad Russell made that brain fart against Cardiff and not munster next week 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Glad Russell made that brain fart against Cardiff and not munster next week Aye true enough! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Ali price named player of month for December. Says a lot for his form that he nipped in ahead of finn for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Jacobsen Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Mark Connolly said: Meanwhile there is an absolute shambles of an incident at Saracens. One of these players got a red, the other no sanction. Which of them caused the incident of foul play? Barrington did not engage the arms, yellow at worst. Barritt is a clear red. It's deliberate too. Odd that the one who will be involved in the Six Nations gets away with it. *edit* in fact, if Barritt hadn't done that, Harrington's tackle would be fine. But, of course, Barritt is a stick-on for the upcoming Six Nations and Barrington isn't. Refereeing as dreadful as the Irish or Jerome Garces. Garces being the worst referee in history by a mile. Edited January 7, 2017 by Allan Jacobsen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
same_ol_g35 Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Barrington did not engage the arms, yellow at worst. Barritt is a clear red. It's deliberate too. Odd that the one who will be involved in the Six Nations gets away with it. *edit* in fact, if Barritt hadn't done that, Harrington's tackle would be fine. But, of course, Barritt is a stick-on for the upcoming Six Nations and Barrington isn't. Refereeing as dreadful as the Irish or Jerome Garces. Garces being the worst referee in history by a mile. Barritt hasn't played for England since the autumn internationals in 2015. I don't think he's a stick-on for the six nations at all. But I do agree Garces is a stand out abysmal ref, and that's saying something considering how atrocious the standard of reffing has been in the pro 12 especially. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Jacobsen Posted January 7, 2017 Share Posted January 7, 2017 Barritt hasn't played for England since the autumn internationals in 2015. I don't think he's a stick-on for the six nations at all. I apologise for my inaccurate, demonstrative response.Garces is still a c**t though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
come on shire Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Happy new year everyone. I was at the game and that was the last Pro12 game for over a month so a win was very important. The fact we got a BP is delightful. Cardiff were surprisingly very poor and their stand-in captain Sam Warburton was nowhere to be seen. Rey Lee-Lo was thankfully quiet too. We were clinical and bounced back well from the Russell/Seymour error for the first try. A bit annoying that we switched off right at the end to offer a bad line-out to offer Cardiff a consolation try. It happens when you're safe and over-relaxed though. Elsewhere in the Pro12 Ospreys got a BP win at home to Connacht. Expected tbh. In Europe, Munster went and got a BP win at an under-strength Racing. Again, fully expected that tbh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajwffc Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 11 hours ago, Allan Jacobsen said: Barrington did not engage the arms, yellow at worst. Barritt is a clear red. It's deliberate too. Odd that the one who will be involved in the Six Nations gets away with it. *edit* in fact, if Barritt hadn't done that, Harrington's tackle would be fine. But, of course, Barritt is a stick-on for the upcoming Six Nations and Barrington isn't. Refereeing as dreadful as the Irish or Jerome Garces. Garces being the worst referee in history by a mile. I think under the new law the ref could of sent both players off Quote Reckless tackleA player is deemed to have made reckless contact during a tackle or attempted tackle or during other phases of the game if in making contact, the player knew or should have known that there was a risk of making contact with the head of an opponent, but did so anyway. This sanction applies even if the tackle starts below the line of the shoulders. This type of contact also applies to grabbing and rolling or twisting around the head/neck area even if the contact starts below the line of the shoulders. Minimum sanction: Yellow cardMaximum sanction: Red card Accidental tackleWhen making contact with another player during a tackle or attempted tackle or during other phases of the game, if a player makes accidental contact with an opponent's head, either directly or where the contact starts below the line of the shoulders, the player may still be sanctioned. This includes situations where the ball-carrier slips into the tackle. Minimum sanction: Penalty http://worldrugby.matchdaymail.com/index.php?action=social&c=7380ad8a673226ae47fce7bff88e9c33.513 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 1 hour ago, ajwffc said: I think under the new law the ref could of sent both players off *Angry pedantry* It's not a new law, it's a tougher sanction. *Angry pedantry* Which is actually part of the problem. They have been so lax on tackles "slipping up" that the new zero tolerance approach seems (in some cases) overly harsh. They have had the same problem with the scrum and the breakdown where they have tried to fix problems they have caused by not just getting the refs to enforce properly laws that are already there. As for the Sarries incident, under the new sanctions, he SHOULD have sent both off. It's already being widely reported that Barritt will be facing the judiciary, which of course begs the question "How did the ref and TMO manage to avoid sending him off"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 There's not a lot of difference between what Barritt did and what Hartley saw red for just a few weeks ago, both should have had the same outcome with red being the only appropriate punishment imo. I saw on Twitter folk saying that the officials didn't want to turn the match into a no contest by dismissing two players, which would be ridiculous if true, that's no concern of the officials their job is purely to apply the laws of the game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 37 minutes ago, peasy23 said: There's not a lot of difference between what Barritt did and what Hartley saw red for just a few weeks ago, both should have had the same outcome with red being the only appropriate punishment imo. I saw on Twitter folk saying that the officials didn't want to turn the match into a no contest by dismissing two players, which would be ridiculous if true, that's no concern of the officials their job is purely to apply the laws of the game. These are the same kind of idiots that say football refs are at fault because "we want 11 v 11", instead of telling the players to stop acting like fannies. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 *Angry pedantry* It's not a new law, it's a tougher sanction. *Angry pedantry* Which is actually part of the problem. They have been so lax on tackles "slipping up" that the new zero tolerance approach seems (in some cases) overly harsh. They have had the same problem with the scrum and the breakdown where they have tried to fix problems they have caused by not just getting the refs to enforce properly laws that are already there. As for the Sarries incident, under the new sanctions, he SHOULD have sent both off. It's already being widely reported that Barritt will be facing the judiciary, which of course begs the question "How did the ref and TMO manage to avoid sending him off"? Don't even start me on scrums n rucks....utterly boils my pish the way they are reffed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 (edited) On Glasgow- fairly dull game, 2 defensive mistakes only think really preventing a very low score from Cardiff. Job done and move on. Barritt / Barrington, probably two red cards. Barritt is probably a red, high swinging arm. Barrington is more unlucky, TV makes that worse as Barritt's actions mean the tackled player is well on the way to ground as he goes down. Still player responsibility to tackle correctly but I might have said Yellow for that. Also Warburton done? Whoever said that is correct. He'll no doubt be off to NZ. Edited January 8, 2017 by flyingscot 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) Warburton may be difficult to justify as a pick for Wales in the 6N. Right now, Tipuric, Baker, Moriarty, Cracknell and James Davies would all be ahead of him on form, as would Faletau who may miss out under "Gatland's Law", and Thomas Young, who has been Wasps' outstanding player, and due to some bizarre circumstances isn't affected by Gatland's Law. ETA: Faletau is of course injured at the moment too! Edited January 9, 2017 by Mark Connolly 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Warburton may be difficult to justify as a pick for Wales in the 6N. Right now, Tipuric, Baker, Moriarty, Cracknell and James Davies would all be ahead of him on form, as would Faletau who may miss out under "Gatland's Law", and Thomas Young, who has been Wasps' outstanding player, and due to some bizarre circumstances isn't affected by Gatland's Law. ETA: Faletau is of course injured at the moment too! I've a lot of time for James Davies. Tremendous competitor at the ruck and an annoying wee sod to play against. He was superb in Olympic 7s. Shame Wales generally go for gym monsters because he's sort of player who could secure quick ball if they went for a more creative style....ok it's not a shame screw them [emoji2] 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Swinson n Seymour both signed contract extensions. Good business especially Tommy. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salmonbuddie Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) On 09/01/2017 at 19:10, Mark Connolly said: Warburton may be difficult to justify as a pick for Wales in the 6N. Right now, Tipuric, Baker, Moriarty, Cracknell and James Davies would all be ahead of him on form, as would Faletau who may miss out under "Gatland's Law", and Thomas Young, who has been Wasps' outstanding player, and due to some bizarre circumstances isn't affected by Gatland's Law. ETA: Faletau is of course injured at the moment too! Reading through the posts on here since I was last in on Friday, I realised that I was at the game on Saturday and watched the recording on Sunday without even noticing that Warburton was on the pitch... Edited January 11, 2017 by salmonbuddie 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogmc Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Reading through the posts on here since I was last in on Friday, I realised that I was at the game on Saturday and watched the recording on Sunday without even noticing that Warburton was on the pitch... Yep was watching live n only time I saw him was walking onto pitch before kick off n shaking hands after game. Harley did more in 10 seconds that Warburton did in 80 min 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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